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I have a great deal of respect for Rinella, even though he borders on the sanctimonious from time to time. He's a good ambassador for our hunting heritage. I'll also not soon forget the marketing package he sent for the auction after Aaron died. He didn't even hesitate. He's a good human.
I think that is a great article written by a man that understands the need for bringing together all users for the betterment of the land and wildlife we ALL love, regardless of political party, opinions on Wolves, Grizzlies, methods of take , support of hunting or the lack thereof, the differences go on and on. I also think if the take away is a “what have we done to them” attitude, the point has been missed, sharply.
Quote from: cbond3318 on October 23, 2018, 01:42:54 PMI think that is a great article written by a man that understands the need for bringing together all users for the betterment of the land and wildlife we ALL love, regardless of political party, opinions on Wolves, Grizzlies, methods of take , support of hunting or the lack thereof, the differences go on and on. I also think if the take away is a “what have we done to them” attitude, the point has been missed, sharply. Let me make some clarifying points. First off this letter isnt really written for hunters, its written for hikers. Outside isnt a hunting magazine. Secondly I think it was a great article and it reinforces what a great ambassador he is. Thirdly It wasnt my take away it was an honest question. Im only aware of nonconsumptive users making waves for hunters. If you know of the reverse i actually wanted to know.
My son and I stopped at the Mazama store a few years back. There were four hikers doing the PCT waiting for their ride back up Hearts Pass. We came in bought some munchies and heard two of them bad mouthing hunters, clearly pointing their conversations towards us. In their conversation with the guy behind the counter they said they were paying $90 each to be given a ride up to the PCT at Hearts Pass. I smiled and left.We were gearing up at Hearts Pass when the showed up. They had to ride in the back of a pickup, in the rain all the way. The one lady who was bad mouthing hunters in the store, says “we can’t seem to get away from all these orange wearing a$$holes”!I walked over to her rifle on my shoulder handgun on my belt, and just smiled at her and said “my son asked me why we don’t offer you a ride to Hearts Pass since that is where we were headed. I was going to offer all of you a free ride, you would have been warm and dry. Then We heard your comments about hunters, my son asked why do they hate us dad? I told him I don’t think they hate us, they are just misinformed. You might want to think about that over the next few miles on the trail, in your wet clothes.”They got real quiet as they geared up to hit the trail.
Quote from: Special T on October 23, 2018, 05:00:48 PMQuote from: cbond3318 on October 23, 2018, 01:42:54 PMI think that is a great article written by a man that understands the need for bringing together all users for the betterment of the land and wildlife we ALL love, regardless of political party, opinions on Wolves, Grizzlies, methods of take , support of hunting or the lack thereof, the differences go on and on. I also think if the take away is a “what have we done to them” attitude, the point has been missed, sharply. Let me make some clarifying points. First off this letter isnt really written for hunters, its written for hikers. Outside isnt a hunting magazine. Secondly I think it was a great article and it reinforces what a great ambassador he is. Thirdly It wasnt my take away it was an honest question. Im only aware of nonconsumptive users making waves for hunters. If you know of the reverse i actually wanted to know.I apologize Special T for interpreting that as your take away. The only things that come to mind are small, localized pushes for limiting access to ATV’s or OHV’s, shutting down access to hikers during an active hunting season and support for a “backpack tax”. It’s a blurry line though because as you stated, the typical sportsman often cross recreates whereas not every hiker hunts. I don’t think any example of just Sportsmen making waves for Non consumptive users is common because we as strictly sportsmen don’t have the numbers. To the point of the article, it is paramount we continue to be conscious of our image, conduct and willingness to work with all groups because frankly, we need them. The few articles I’ve gleaned from Outside have given me the impression they have a level headed position on the line between Sportsmen and non consumptive users.
I hunt nearly exclusively in the wilderness...killed my bear last year proned out in the PCT, met hundreds of hikers over the last 5 years and I’ve had ONE bad interaction with a hiker. And we turned that interaction into a positive by the time it was done.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Alchase on October 23, 2018, 06:14:15 PMMy son and I stopped at the Mazama store a few years back. There were four hikers doing the PCT waiting for their ride back up Hearts Pass. We came in bought some munchies and heard two of them bad mouthing hunters, clearly pointing their conversations towards us. In their conversation with the guy behind the counter they said they were paying $90 each to be given a ride up to the PCT at Hearts Pass. I smiled and left.We were gearing up at Hearts Pass when the showed up. They had to ride in the back of a pickup, in the rain all the way. The one lady who was bad mouthing hunters in the store, says “we can’t seem to get away from all these orange wearing a$$holes”!I walked over to her rifle on my shoulder handgun on my belt, and just smiled at her and said “my son asked me why we don’t offer you a ride to Hearts Pass since that is where we were headed. I was going to offer all of you a free ride, you would have been warm and dry. Then We heard your comments about hunters, my son asked why do they hate us dad? I told him I don’t think they hate us, they are just misinformed. You might want to think about that over the next few miles on the trail, in your wet clothes.”They got real quiet as they geared up to hit the trail.But at the same time you shouldn't let a few people color your opinion of an entire group. Should the guy in Capitol Forest represent hunters?https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,232505.0.html
I did a class at cabelas this past summer called "Hikers to Hunters" for those hikers who were interested in getting into hunting. While it wasn't a huge class (under 20) it was still great to have people show up, with an open mind, and with the willingness to learn. Hopefully, those individuals left with a positive outcome and maybe voiced those opinions to others in their "hiker" circle.Hunters and hikers have a ton in common, much more than either side likes to admit many times. It is great to see Steve speak out on this, as we all should. We all need to come together and fight to keep our public lands just that and to realize that "public" means there are a lot of different interests involved.I've enjoyed bear sausage with other hikers when I have been out, showcased them mountain goats and bear, animals they would have never seen unless I had pointed them out. Remember guys and gals, WE are ambassadors to our sport, so lets act like it every chance we get.
