New draw in Wa?

[funkster]

If the wdfw is trying to raise money(which I feel they desperately need) how about instead of $5 apps raise it to $20 with no refund. I think this would cut down on hunters not using their tags. When looking at harvest reports that is one thing I can't stand seeing 70 tags issued and only 30 hunters went in to hunt . How about the option to purchase points? $50 per point with a limit of 4 points per year to keep it fair for the average hunter. I 100% agree with limiting hunt choices to 2 would also increase chances of pulling.

[BENCHLEG]

i like the way we had it many years ago. if you draw you are out for 2 years. but with this system let you gain points. that will weed out some people. 

[InsideWDFW]

If the wdfw is trying to raise money(which I feel they desperately need) how about instead of $5 apps raise it to $20 with no refund. I think this would cut down on hunters not using their tags. When looking at harvest reports that is one thing I can't stand seeing 70 tags issued and only 30 hunters went in to hunt . How about the option to purchase points? $50 per point with a limit of 4 points per year to keep it fair for the average hunter. I 100% agree with limiting hunt choices to 2 would also increase chances of pulling.

One thing that we have to be careful of is to make that hunting in Washington is not based on how wealthy you are.  For some, the 45 dollars for a license and application is a major purchase.  Hunting in Washington has to stay as accessible as possible.

Regarding the permits, quota is setup based on a 30% harvest rate.  If the harvest rate increased, you would see less permits available.  This is where people quoted permit numbers as "They increased the permits by 100, they want to slaughter 100 animals!!" is amusing.  History has shown that the average harvest rate will remain the same, if not decline, as you increase the available permits.  So when we bump a hunt by hundred, we are looking at harvesting an additional 30 animals. 

Obviously this the quick example, we know that some units have a higher harvest and some lower.

[billythekidrock]

One thing that we have to be careful of is to make that hunting in Washington is not based on how wealthy you are.  For some, the 45 dollars for a license and application is a major purchase.  Hunting in Washington has to stay as accessible as possible.

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[Alan K]

I'd like to see the number of choices you can put in for be reduced to one or two.  Defiantely one or two on OIL tags. 

I don't like the idea of having to choose species.  I like having my name in the hat for every species every year.

One thing I'd like to see in the hunting regs is another column by the number of applicants one.  One that shows the total number of names in the hat.  When you see the number of applicants that person could have 0 points or 12 points, 1 name in the hat or 144 in the hat.  It really doesn't give you much of a feel for hwo good your odds are when you only see the number of applicants.

I wouldn't mind seeing the deer be east or west side. That is, only if the guys that put in for east side tags still do.  Help thin out the crowds over on my side of the mountains. 


I'd like to think the draws are run honestly, but I smell something fishy when I hear about WDFW employees drawing premier buck and bull tags every other year.   

[redjeepgirl]

One thing that we have to be careful of is to make that hunting in Washington is not based on how wealthy you are.  For some, the 45 dollars for a license and application is a major purchase.  Hunting in Washington has to stay as accessible as possible.

+1 for that. I hunted in college to feed my friends and family. This also keeps people from getting involved in our sport and further makes it a game for the elite, like "hunting" in Africa.
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[Up a Creek]

Your wife's 15 points can be a drop in the bucket.  If there is no random chance and even the %25 that Wyoming teases you with, you are looking at the same problem.  In point systems that are squared (like Washington) you have a weighted chance but it is still random.  I would bet your wife is putting in for the elite units.  A true system that really works is NO POINTS

Of course we put in for elite units, if you want a great tag you have to be disciplined. With out a weighted system you might not draw a premium tag in your life time, that was one of the reasons the system was adopted. With the point system at least you know you have a chance of scoring an oil tag compared to possibly never drawing at all. You probably drew good under the no point system (I've been around long enough to have used both) I new a lot of people who took years just to draw a cow tag under that system.

[funkster]

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One thing that we have to be careful of is to make that hunting in Washington is not based on how wealthy you are.  For some, the 45 dollars for a license and application is a major purchase.  Hunting in Washington has to stay as accessible as possible.

+1 for that. I hunted in college to feed my friends and family. This also keeps people from getting involved in our sport and further makes it a game for the elite, like "hunting" in Africa.
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I hear what you are saying but what's wrong with supporting the sport you love. The wdfw is loosing fundage and if we as hunters don't support them no one will be able to hunt. I thought it might kill two birds with one stone!

I feel that the majority of fishermen and hunters do not hunt or fish to feed their family and friends anymore,the meat harvested is a added bonus. If you where to buy a fishing lic and a hunting tag you are well over $300, 1 person couldn't harvest enough fish or game to make up for $300 of meat you could buy at Costco. Add in gas,weapon and time off work and you are better off going to the store just my