Converting my 700ML to a SAFE 209 system

[usmc74]

Just ordered the kit to change the bolt nose and breech plug to a safe enclosed 209 ignition systems.

WooHoo!

[usmc74]

Safe meaning no blow back into the bolt or face.

https://www.badgerridgeind.com/store/p10/700ML_KIT.html

[Sabotloader]

Safe meaning no blow back into the bolt or face.

https://www.badgerridgeind.com/store/p10/700ML_KIT.html

That setup, which I call the 'derfhunter' bolt nose and 209 kit is a really good way to convert your 700ML to a real 209 ignition system.  Back when I have the 700's I built a couple of conversions but this one is far better and well proven!

[usmc74]

I did buy it from derfhunter.  He just didn't have any of his pix show anymore

[Sabotloader]

I did buy it from derfhunter.  He just didn't have any of his pix show anymore

I think when you get it you will really like it!

[usmc74]

He did text pix to me, and I like it already!

[Sabotloader]

He did text pix to me, and I like it already!

Derfhunter is a great guy when you get it - if you have any questions just call he can walk you through it with a blind fold on!!!

[matt509]

Serious question; why would you want to convert it to a 209 system?

[usmc74]

For the ability to use BH209 powder.  Able to shoot multiple shots without swabbing in between each one.

This kit prevents the serious blowback issue with the open breach

[Randysonia]

Serious question; why would you want to convert it to a 209 system?

    Exactly, Why? I have never had a miss fire on my two 700's. Also it depends on the powder you use for cleaning between shots. I clean mine every 5 shots with no problem and I have never had a blow-back  issue with any of them. Ever!

[wa.hunter]

I too have never had any blow back..however 2 shots and got to clean it. Particularly if shooting over 300 yds.

[usmc74]

Serious question; why would you want to convert it to a 209 system?

    Exactly, Why? I have never had a miss fire on my two 700's. Also it depends on the powder you use for cleaning between shots. I clean mine every 5 shots with no problem and I have never had a blow-back  issue with any of them. Ever!

I have had a hangfire while out hunting (don't remember if it was a #11 or musket cap).  The hangfire DID hit the elk.  The followup shot did flip the elk and it hit the ground.  I have my Knight plunger gun to shoot traditional caps.  I wanted to try the bighorn 209 powder, and the 209 option with the "standard Remington" 209 nipple does produce debris/blowback.  It's my rifle, and my choice to change it.  Still haven't done it yet, too many projects.

[jackelope]

Is there something special about BH209 that’s makes you want to do this?

[usmc74]

Not having to swab between shots is a big plus.

Not getting the T7 "crud ring".

Like I said, I have a bighorn that I regularly shoot, but being a plunger gun, am unable to use higher charges.

[jackelope]

Not having to swab between shots is a big plus.

Not getting the T7 "crud ring".

Like I said, I have a bighorn that I regularly shoot, but being a plunger gun, am unable to use higher charges.

I get the cleaning thing. I’m just wondering if there’s something different about the way bh209 burns or whatever that makes you want to do this. I’m considering trying it in my Encore. That’s mostly why I’m asking.