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Quote from: CAMPMEAT on February 11, 2019, 02:08:56 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2019, 01:43:59 PMQuote from: pianoman9701 on February 11, 2019, 01:35:38 PMI'm not sure I understand. If the FBI is operating within Stevens Co., don't they have to check in with the sheriff to perform their duties? I thought that any LE has to answer to the Sheriff in his county in WA because he's the only one elected by a vote of the people. The others are appointed.No.Some sheriff's claim that since they are the only ones elected then everyone must answer to them. But SCOTUS has consistently ruled that's not the case. City, state, federal, tribal agencies do not answer to the sheriff. The only time they do is if they want county authority. So if a DNR Officer (which under state law only has authority on DNR lands) wants authority off DNR lands the sheriff can deputize him. If the DNR Officer pisses him off then the sheriff can pull that authority and he would be stuck to just enforcing laws on DNR land.About 25 sheriff's in WA deputize DNR Officers, 14 don't. So in 25 counties DNR Officers can pull you over on main street, and in 14 they can't and can only work DNR lands.In Utah no sheriff's deputize BLM Rangers, so they can't arrest/cite anyone into state court but they can into federal court. Some sheriffs in Utah deputize USFS LEOs, so those LEOs can cite/arrest individuals into state or federal court.All the Border Patrol Agents I know in and around Ferry and Stevens Counties are deputized. I know Ferry & Okanogan have historically deputized USFS.It really helps both agencies. If the county gets a 911 call of a domestic assault occurring and the deputies are 30 minutes away but a federal LEO who is deputized is 5 minutes the federal LEO could handle the call. But if that federal LEO isn't deputized he can't do anything since a domestic assault isn't a federal crime.
Quote from: bigtex on February 11, 2019, 01:43:59 PMQuote from: pianoman9701 on February 11, 2019, 01:35:38 PMI'm not sure I understand. If the FBI is operating within Stevens Co., don't they have to check in with the sheriff to perform their duties? I thought that any LE has to answer to the Sheriff in his county in WA because he's the only one elected by a vote of the people. The others are appointed.No.Some sheriff's claim that since they are the only ones elected then everyone must answer to them. But SCOTUS has consistently ruled that's not the case. City, state, federal, tribal agencies do not answer to the sheriff. The only time they do is if they want county authority. So if a DNR Officer (which under state law only has authority on DNR lands) wants authority off DNR lands the sheriff can deputize him. If the DNR Officer pisses him off then the sheriff can pull that authority and he would be stuck to just enforcing laws on DNR land.About 25 sheriff's in WA deputize DNR Officers, 14 don't. So in 25 counties DNR Officers can pull you over on main street, and in 14 they can't and can only work DNR lands.In Utah no sheriff's deputize BLM Rangers, so they can't arrest/cite anyone into state court but they can into federal court. Some sheriffs in Utah deputize USFS LEOs, so those LEOs can cite/arrest individuals into state or federal court.All the Border Patrol Agents I know in and around Ferry and Stevens Counties are deputized.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on February 11, 2019, 01:35:38 PMI'm not sure I understand. If the FBI is operating within Stevens Co., don't they have to check in with the sheriff to perform their duties? I thought that any LE has to answer to the Sheriff in his county in WA because he's the only one elected by a vote of the people. The others are appointed.No.Some sheriff's claim that since they are the only ones elected then everyone must answer to them. But SCOTUS has consistently ruled that's not the case. City, state, federal, tribal agencies do not answer to the sheriff. The only time they do is if they want county authority. So if a DNR Officer (which under state law only has authority on DNR lands) wants authority off DNR lands the sheriff can deputize him. If the DNR Officer pisses him off then the sheriff can pull that authority and he would be stuck to just enforcing laws on DNR land.About 25 sheriff's in WA deputize DNR Officers, 14 don't. So in 25 counties DNR Officers can pull you over on main street, and in 14 they can't and can only work DNR lands.In Utah no sheriff's deputize BLM Rangers, so they can't arrest/cite anyone into state court but they can into federal court. Some sheriffs in Utah deputize USFS LEOs, so those LEOs can cite/arrest individuals into state or federal court.
I'm not sure I understand. If the FBI is operating within Stevens Co., don't they have to check in with the sheriff to perform their duties? I thought that any LE has to answer to the Sheriff in his county in WA because he's the only one elected by a vote of the people. The others are appointed.
Quote from: bigtex on February 11, 2019, 02:11:47 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on February 11, 2019, 02:08:56 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2019, 01:43:59 PMQuote from: pianoman9701 on February 11, 2019, 01:35:38 PMI'm not sure I understand. If the FBI is operating within Stevens Co., don't they have to check in with the sheriff to perform their duties? I thought that any LE has to answer to the Sheriff in his county in WA because he's the only one elected by a vote of the people. The others are appointed.No.Some sheriff's claim that since they are the only ones elected then everyone must answer to them. But SCOTUS has consistently ruled that's not the case. City, state, federal, tribal agencies do not answer to the sheriff. The only time they do is if they want county authority. So if a DNR Officer (which under state law only has authority on DNR lands) wants authority off DNR lands the sheriff can deputize him. If the DNR Officer pisses him off then the sheriff can pull that authority and he would be stuck to just enforcing laws on DNR land.About 25 sheriff's in WA deputize DNR Officers, 14 don't. So in 25 counties DNR Officers can pull you over on main street, and in 14 they can't and can only work DNR lands.In Utah no sheriff's deputize BLM Rangers, so they can't arrest/cite anyone into state court but they can into federal court. Some sheriffs in Utah deputize USFS LEOs, so those LEOs can cite/arrest individuals into state or federal court.All the Border Patrol Agents I know in and around Ferry and Stevens Counties are deputized. I know Ferry & Okanogan have historically deputized USFS.It really helps both agencies. If the county gets a 911 call of a domestic assault occurring and the deputies are 30 minutes away but a federal LEO who is deputized is 5 minutes the federal LEO could handle the call. But if that federal LEO isn't deputized he can't do anything since a domestic assault isn't a federal crime.Ferry County actually had a USFS LEO from California, right out of school for biology. He wanted a government job. He took the job sight unseen. He was single, not good in Ferry County, and worked there for a couple years, then left. To this day, he was never replaced as far as I know.
Quote from: CAMPMEAT on February 11, 2019, 02:16:28 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2019, 02:11:47 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on February 11, 2019, 02:08:56 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2019, 01:43:59 PMQuote from: pianoman9701 on February 11, 2019, 01:35:38 PMI'm not sure I understand. If the FBI is operating within Stevens Co., don't they have to check in with the sheriff to perform their duties? I thought that any LE has to answer to the Sheriff in his county in WA because he's the only one elected by a vote of the people. The others are appointed.No.Some sheriff's claim that since they are the only ones elected then everyone must answer to them. But SCOTUS has consistently ruled that's not the case. City, state, federal, tribal agencies do not answer to the sheriff. The only time they do is if they want county authority. So if a DNR Officer (which under state law only has authority on DNR lands) wants authority off DNR lands the sheriff can deputize him. If the DNR Officer pisses him off then the sheriff can pull that authority and he would be stuck to just enforcing laws on DNR land.About 25 sheriff's in WA deputize DNR Officers, 14 don't. So in 25 counties DNR Officers can pull you over on main street, and in 14 they can't and can only work DNR lands.In Utah no sheriff's deputize BLM Rangers, so they can't arrest/cite anyone into state court but they can into federal court. Some sheriffs in Utah deputize USFS LEOs, so those LEOs can cite/arrest individuals into state or federal court.All the Border Patrol Agents I know in and around Ferry and Stevens Counties are deputized. I know Ferry & Okanogan have historically deputized USFS.It really helps both agencies. If the county gets a 911 call of a domestic assault occurring and the deputies are 30 minutes away but a federal LEO who is deputized is 5 minutes the federal LEO could handle the call. But if that federal LEO isn't deputized he can't do anything since a domestic assault isn't a federal crime.Ferry County actually had a USFS LEO from California, right out of school for biology. He wanted a government job. He took the job sight unseen. He was single, not good in Ferry County, and worked there for a couple years, then left. To this day, he was never replaced as far as I know.I've met him. He actually worked as a game warden for the Dept of Defense in between school and USFS. He went on to the USFWS and they canned him.