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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2019, 09:58:46 AM »
Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2019, 10:00:38 AM »
I cant help but laugh at the folks that are up in arms about this, only the hunting community would be so quick to stomp out one of our own.  I dont see how this is at all anti 2nd amendment.

As stated above, the police departments have this as "policy" which they should change. Benchmade could say no as well. And people in the "hunting community" jumped on it which is a shock actually because hunters are some of the worst 2A supporters. Sorry but its true.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2019, 10:09:22 AM »
Here are some more companies that have supported democrats to add to the boycott list:

Smith & Wesson
Remington Arms
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Safari Club International
Cabelas
Walmart
Safeway
Amazon
Costco
Chevrolet
Dodge
Ford
Every other vehicle manufacturer
Every major gas station and petroleum producer
International dairy foods association

Do all of these companies donate 100% of their political donations to Dem PACs? I know there are quite a few gun-friendly Dems, mostly in Red states. So I can understand some across the aisle donations. The timber companies do that, too. But donating 100% to Dem PACs, where the money is usually distributed among many politicians' campaigns is a different story. A supposedly hunter-friendly/2A-friendly company who donates nothing to the right side of the aisle may not be as 2A friendly as their statement suggests.

Please research open secrets.  Benchmade DID NOT donate.  An employee of Benchmade did, an individual or the immediate family member of an individual.  Could have been the president, could have been the janitor's wife, could have been a guy they fired.  We don't know who it was.

To say Benchmade 100% supports "Dem PACs" is a lie.  Benchmade didn't support any Dems according to open secrets and Benchmade employees directly contributed to two democrats, not PACs.

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2019, 10:12:34 AM »
So the graph above is false then? Because that graph shows they donated the money to PACs, if I read it correctly.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2019, 10:18:52 AM »
So the graph above is false then? Because that graph shows they donated the money to PACs, if I read it correctly.

The graph is correct:

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000047693&cycle=2018

100% of the money came from Individuals (not the company).  Nothing came from PACs.  The money came from:

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employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2019, 10:20:13 AM »
No, I was saying 100% of the money went to PACs. What am I getting wrong here?
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2019, 10:34:59 AM »
I cant help but laugh at the folks that are up in arms about this, only the hunting community would be so quick to stomp out one of our own.  I dont see how this is at all anti 2nd amendment.

It’s just more of the same - you have people who look to media of some sort to guide them on what to be upset about this week. It’s no different than the poor kid wearing the MAGA hat getting dumped on by Democrats until the real story came out.

I wonder how many of these folks cried about the NFL and not standing for the anthem? I wonder how many of them, after claiming to never watch another football game... are now watching football again?

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2019, 10:35:31 AM »
100% of the money came from individuals and went directly to candidates.  No PACs and no Benchmade involvement.


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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2019, 10:42:33 AM »
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I wonder how many of these folks cried about the NFL and not standing for the anthem? I wonder how many of them, after claiming to never watch another football game... are now watching football again?

I cried big tears over the NFL and haven’t had a game on or watched a game in two years, including your beloved Super Bowl.  Some things are worth standing for, and to some the 2nd amendment might be one of them.   Just saying.....


I don’t have a dog in this fight...is that even pc to say now a days.....I don’t and probably never will own a benchmade. 

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2019, 10:43:57 AM »
Far worse is the likelihood that at least one of their employees hunts back country.

My Benchmades are all going into the trash tonight.

You could send them to me, i'll  take good care of them.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2019, 10:51:10 AM »
Sorry. I read it as one category "Individual PACs" and it's two separate categories. Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2019, 10:52:02 AM »
Destroying the firearm follows along with the old, worn out Lib ideal that the firearm is responsible for the crime.  It makes zero difference if the firearm was used in a crime, donated by someone who had no further use, or doesn't have a serial number.  Destroying a firearm doesn't make us any more safe.  The people who participate in it are showing their true colors, their naivety, or their allegiance to the state.   

Destroying the firearm, especially at the request of the state is very telling....

Let's say you walk up to a street cop and hand him your Benchmade knife, you think it is too sharp and may hurt someone.  Will that knife be taken to Benchamde and cut up?

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2019, 10:53:16 AM »
Just want to be sure I followed this right.

Police had confiscated guns from crimes.
No person had a right to possess these guns, or to have them returned to them.
The law requires that they be destroyed.
Benchmade has proper equipment for the destruction.
Police asked Benchmade to do the destruction, and they agreed to do so, for free.
Had they not, police would have paid a service to destroy the guns they were required by law to destroy.

How is this a thread? 

BTW, I have employees who vote for democrats, maybe donate to them too. Should I fire them, and if I don't, should people boycott my business?

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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2019, 11:00:59 AM »
Just want to be sure I followed this right.

Police had confiscated guns from crimes.
No person had a right to possess these guns, or to have them returned to them.
The law requires that they be destroyed.
Benchmade has proper equipment for the destruction.
Police asked Benchmade to do the destruction, and they agreed to do so, for free.
Had they not, police would have paid a service to destroy the guns they were required by law to destroy.

How is this a thread? 

BTW, I have employees who vote for democrats, maybe donate to them too. Should I fire them, and if I don't, should people boycott my business?

Yes
Yes
Yes but its a faulty law and should be changed or disobeyed
Yes
Yes but they should have said no
Again they should not follow this unless the guns were unsafe. Should have sold them to a local shop or held an auction for law abiding citizens to buy, raise money.

Because we have opinions on the subject

As far as your employees do as you wish, its your business I think you should hire/fire as you like. let the free market handle you if they disagree.

Cover it all? :chuckle:
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Re: Looks like Benchmade knife company is anti-gun
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2019, 11:11:46 AM »
I guess that covers it all.

No 2A rights are harmed by guns that were used in crime getting destroyed. 

All that happens is that the PD is shorted revenue it could have recovered if they were sold. Benchmade should be blushing because the police didn't have to spend money to destroy them?  If anyone's rights were being harmed here I'd change my mind, they aren't.  We always say guns are just tools. Yep, and if the police destroy the knives, hammers, tire jacks that are used in crimes, should I get pissed at that too? 

Pretty thin gruel.

 


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