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Re: Wolf season year around....
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2019, 09:58:09 PM »
HC, some type of cross with a hound might work, as I'm sure you know quite a few guys have successfully crossed hounds with various types of breeds for various purposes

Oh yea I’m sure there’s something that could bred up eventually. There is some guy in MT that was crossing kangals and blueticks I think? Just couldn’t get the stamina and nose to keep strong enough in the pups if I remember right.

The best crosses I've seen were hound/airdale, hound/greyhound, hound/birddog, and hound/stockdog. Unfortunately when you start crossing breeds it's hard to get uniformity in breeding, sometimes the pups work, often times they don't, you probably know or have heard of a lot of the guys who had many of these crossed bloodlines I'm talking about.

I really wanted to run hounds on coyotes but WA outlawed that too. It would be interesting to try crossing hounds with some larger breed to hunt wolves, but I'm not sure if that would be legal to chase them with dogs, even in Idaho. Probably it would work best to run some bigger crosses with a good trailing hound, the other dogs could follow the hound until the wolf is jumped and then take over.

I've done a fair amount of breeding in past years and uniformity was one of my biggest considerations. My son has gotten into about the same bloodlines I used to breed and his pups are usually spoken for before they are weened. He has a litter of nine right now, the eyes just opened, two pups are still available if you know a good hunter looking for a good walker hound.
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Re: Wolf season year around....
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2019, 11:01:20 AM »
HC, some type of cross with a hound might work, as I'm sure you know quite a few guys have successfully crossed hounds with various types of breeds for various purposes

Oh yea I’m sure there’s something that could bred up eventually. There is some guy in MT that was crossing kangals and blueticks I think? Just couldn’t get the stamina and nose to keep strong enough in the pups if I remember right.

The best crosses I've seen were hound/airdale, hound/greyhound, hound/birddog, and hound/stockdog. Unfortunately when you start crossing breeds it's hard to get uniformity in breeding, sometimes the pups work, often times they don't, you probably know or have heard of a lot of the guys who had many of these crossed bloodlines I'm talking about.

I really wanted to run hounds on coyotes but WA outlawed that too. It would be interesting to try crossing hounds with some larger breed to hunt wolves, but I'm not sure if that would be legal to chase them with dogs, even in Idaho. Probably it would work best to run some bigger crosses with a good trailing hound, the other dogs could follow the hound until the wolf is jumped and then take over.

I've done a fair amount of breeding in past years and uniformity was one of my biggest considerations. My son has gotten into about the same bloodlines I used to breed and his pups are usually spoken for before they are weened. He has a litter of nine right now, the eyes just opened, two pups are still available if you know a good hunter looking for a good walker hound.

I am not sure you need to cross anything :dunno: The Wisconsin hunters were getting it done with walkers and said they were not losing dogs? I was thinking hounds with a few Airedales or the huge wolf hounds added in would be the ticket if they would pack up and hunt together. Idaho doesn't allow it but it seems like a pretty efficient way to hunt wolves with all the wolf tracks I seem to cut every year

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Re: Wolf season year around....
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2019, 11:04:15 AM »
Heck. That's what these guy's were bred for. Throw in some over sized pitbulls and have at it.

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Team them up with some hounds to guide them in :chuckle:

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Re: Wolf season year around....
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2019, 08:22:39 AM »
HC, some type of cross with a hound might work, as I'm sure you know quite a few guys have successfully crossed hounds with various types of breeds for various purposes

Oh yea I’m sure there’s something that could bred up eventually. There is some guy in MT that was crossing kangals and blueticks I think? Just couldn’t get the stamina and nose to keep strong enough in the pups if I remember right.

The best crosses I've seen were hound/airdale, hound/greyhound, hound/birddog, and hound/stockdog. Unfortunately when you start crossing breeds it's hard to get uniformity in breeding, sometimes the pups work, often times they don't, you probably know or have heard of a lot of the guys who had many of these crossed bloodlines I'm talking about.

I really wanted to run hounds on coyotes but WA outlawed that too. It would be interesting to try crossing hounds with some larger breed to hunt wolves, but I'm not sure if that would be legal to chase them with dogs, even in Idaho. Probably it would work best to run some bigger crosses with a good trailing hound, the other dogs could follow the hound until the wolf is jumped and then take over.

I've done a fair amount of breeding in past years and uniformity was one of my biggest considerations. My son has gotten into about the same bloodlines I used to breed and his pups are usually spoken for before they are weened. He has a litter of nine right now, the eyes just opened, two pups are still available if you know a good hunter looking for a good walker hound.

I am not sure you need to cross anything :dunno: The Wisconsin hunters were getting it done with walkers and said they were not losing dogs? I was thinking hounds with a few Airedales or the huge wolf hounds added in would be the ticket if they would pack up and hunt together. Idaho doesn't allow it but it seems like a pretty efficient way to hunt wolves with all the wolf tracks I seem to cut every year

I suppose if you run enough dogs together size isn't as important. But there have been a lot of hounds killed and eaten by wolves in Idaho and in Wisconsin, sometimes it's the whole dog pack that gets killed/eaten!

I've had a few dogs killed by bear and cougar through the years, it's almost always the best dogs that die, the lesser dogs are never in danger's way.
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Re: Wolf season year around....
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2019, 01:04:18 PM »
I am well aware of dogs being killed I have had dogs beat up but lucky never killed. One of my buddies that I hunted quite a bit with had a whole pack wiped out during bear training season. I just think it was interesting that Wisconsin hunters were getting it done with hounds and were not using big pack just a few hounds and claimed they were not losing dogs. They had something figured out but it doesn’t matter now since they can’t hunt wolves period. Ironically since they closed wolves I think they are having record injuries and deaths of hound from wolves while chasing bears. I was just wanting to get some insight into what they were doing not go back over what I always thought also , that you would need a huge pack of hounds or some huge cross breed or mix of hounds and large sight dogs. They were doing it with just a few Walker’s period. I probably have taken this thread far enough off the topic ha ha

 


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