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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2019, 05:05:32 PM »
Excellent over view of the situation, thanks

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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2019, 07:08:36 AM »
I would think the same scenario is happening in Washington also

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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2019, 07:43:31 AM »
Wonder when Mr Ballard from Conservation NW is going to come here again and state how wonderful wolves are again and that wolves actually help train cattle dogs😂😂😂

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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2019, 10:56:33 AM »
They only eat from the sick and dying...ranches that can't afford to stay in business like this.  :bash:
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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2019, 11:34:53 AM »
how unseen was it realy lets be honest maybe the level

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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2019, 08:16:57 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEufIke4XE

Video on the situation. Lots of scientific literature is cited as well as interviews from ranchers in the rural Idaho communities. Long but worth a watch!

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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 08:53:16 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEufIke4XE

Video on the situation. Lots of scientific literature is cited as well as interviews from ranchers in the rural Idaho communities. Long but worth a watch!

Thanks.was worth the watch

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Re: Wolves in the West: Unforeseen impacts caused by wolves in Idaho
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2019, 09:40:25 PM »
From the video:

"No one knew that cattle stressed by wolves will attack herding dogs..."


We discussed this a while back in a thread about PSTD for cattle

I've heard that on some ranches where cattle dogs are used, the cows have grown up with the dogs since they were calves.  Both animals fine with each other.  Then after a herd experiences a wolf attack, the cows are bezerko if the rancher brings the dog.  The cows become dangerous to themselves, people, horses and dogs.  They get wolf flashbacks.


My Brittany doesn't look much like a wolf,  last fall running her through cattle country it wasn't too bad for the cows freaking out.  This was wedge cattle too from the diamond M so you know they've experienced wolves, and they were on range in wolf country.  I was keeping a close eye on how they reacted to the dog. 

They definatly kept an eye on the dog but didn't go running off or freaking out, if the dog got too close they'd put their heads down and tail starts going up but I kept the dog away from them for the most part.   Now if I were running a malamute or shepard, something that looks more like a wolf that might be a different story.  I think the cows know the difference pretty well,  if they ran from just any k9 the coyotes would have them worked up all the time.

It also helps that my britt just ignores the cows too,  bring out an ankle biter dog and it wouldn't go too well.

I'm definitely careful around cattle that have experienced wolves and keep my dog well away, I don't want to stress cattle or get my dog hurt.

 


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