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anttler growth finish ?
« on: July 12, 2019, 05:57:17 PM »
just curious when antlers are finished for the most part? My summer starts  next month thinking of doing some looking then. thanks

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 10:47:27 PM »
Really, as far as I understand it, it depends on the animal.
More mature animals (those with larger antlers) drop later, but grow faster.
I think it has to do with pedicle diameter.
The more circumference it has, the more nutrients and blood passes into growth.
However...
When you see antlers with a bulbous tip, it shows that this blood and nutrients are collecting, indicating that it is feeding something.
That would mean it still is growing.
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By this time of year you should be able to see the formation/symmetry of the finished antler.
Mass has been established, its only length left to grow.
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Honestly, if it looks big, what else do you need to know?
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But, if you are scouting this time of year it is more important to find access points, travel areas, and cows.
Knowing the bulls are in the area is great, but they have different dietary needs.
Once the first scent of estrous hits the wind, everything changes.
The bulls will be looking for cows.
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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2019, 12:00:07 AM »
Really, as far as I understand it, it depends on the animal.
More mature animals (those with larger antlers) drop later, but grow faster.
I think it has to do with pedicle diameter.
The more circumference it has, the more nutrients and blood passes into growth.
However...
When you see antlers with a bulbous tip, it shows that this blood and nutrients are collecting, indicating that it is feeding something.
That would mean it still is growing.
.
By this time of year you should be able to see the formation/symmetry of the finished antler.
Mass has been established, its only length left to grow.
.
Honestly, if it looks big, what else do you need to know?
.
But, if you are scouting this time of year it is more important to find access points, travel areas, and cows.
Knowing the bulls are in the area is great, but they have different dietary needs.
Once the first scent of estrous hits the wind, everything changes.
The bulls will be looking for cows.

Mature bucks and bulls tend to drop earlier, not later. 

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 06:54:51 AM »
Big bulls are pretty much done growing by now I think. I was able to document this guy a few years ago.  He didn’t change much from early July to hard horned.









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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 09:57:33 AM »
thanks i guess it was something i was curious about   im sure ill get over there  this summer to look around  find  spots  just was thinking if i seen bull  how much it might change but but mid aug pretty much done 

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2019, 07:23:27 PM »
Is that a wild elk

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2019, 08:06:06 PM »
Is that a wild elk

The one in my pictures?

If so, 100% wild. Killed by the guy in the picture during the WA  special permit muzzleloader season, 2013.
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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2019, 09:48:45 PM »
most people seem to think if it has velvet its growing and that is wrong there is lengthy process to the antler becoming hard.

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 10:21:46 PM »
Saw this guy today, I figure he's probably pretty close to done.  If not, he'll be dang nice.  :yike:

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 03:55:19 PM »
Is that a wild elk

The one in my pictures?

If so, 100% wild. Killed by the guy in the picture during the WA  special permit muzzleloader season, 2013.
thats a dam nice bull

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 09:42:36 PM »
Is that a wild elk

The one in my pictures?

If so, 100% wild. Killed by the guy in the picture during the WA  special permit muzzleloader season, 2013.
thats a dam nice bull
Indeed. He was 399” and change gross. I got several hundred pictures of him over that summer on 3 different cameras.
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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 09:43:53 PM »
Date is correct on this pic.  Just losing velvet on the 18th of August.  Have pics of this same bull 2 days prior and velvet is intact.

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2019, 07:42:58 PM »
Date is correct on this pic.  Just losing velvet on the 18th of August.  Have pics of this same bull 2 days prior and velvet is intact.
That’s probably one of the coolest trail cam pics I’ve seen. Thanks for sharing!


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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2019, 08:26:53 PM »
This one was mid August a year ago

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Re: anttler growth finish ?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2019, 08:29:13 PM »
And this was August 8th.

 


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