Someone has set a blind right next to my stand

[Skyvalhunter]

A sign of the times unfortunately

[birddogdad]

Have a talk. They might have done it out of principle, they saw someone try to claim a piece of public land as their own, so they threw up their stand too.

 

seems as if this theme of "claiming" before season hits hard bout this time of year... time to go put my cheap tent in my favorite camping spot for Mid-October setup..... oh wait...that is a different rabbit hole i guess.....

[Pegasus]

Spray the offending encroacher's blind area with skunk scent when he is not around.  Problem solved.  https://www.predatorpeestore.com/skunk-um.html

[The Marquis]

Whoever occupies the area with their presence (not their possessions) gets the spot and deserves the spot, so you better get there earlier than them.

[CoryTDF]

I think a conversation may be the best option possibly the two of you can come to a resolution. That does not involve taco bell. I wont get into the ethics of placing the blind. For me i have gotten into the habit of making several blinds/ locations. If i find someone in my spot i just move to the next one. This also means if i pass a blind or stand and dont see anyone in it ill hunt that area if it looks promising or if i see deer. Perhaps they have multiple spots, its archery season and they are gun hunters, or they are not actively using it. Its annoying but it happens its public land and we all have equal access.

Cory our conversation did teach me new things however i still hold to my opinion. It is difficult for new hunters to enter an area without stepping on somebody's toes. I hope you dont give up on Wa, i learned from the experience and started new habits. I also think we should approach other hunters without hubris when discussing ethics. It just leads to arguments and gets us nowhere. Hunters are the biggest enemies of themselves.   

Knew this would smoke you out. Bottom line is that when you come into an area and set a ground blind up 10 feet away from a treestand, trail camera and established and maintained bait pile you are poaching off someone's hard work, time and money. Plenty of room to find your own spot and make your own stand.

Just takes me back to the story about the lake. If you got to the waters edge first, would it be right for you to jump in another persons boat and head out fishing? Would be right to grab one of their rods and go fishing with it? I mean, the lake is public land right?

Lots of land out there. You want to establish a bait pile on a certain spot? Get there first. It's just that simple. If you come across another persons stand, well, keep moving. Guess I am old school and the new flat brim hat crowd just does not see thing the way I do.     

[92xj]

People are strange.
I was in my treestand, a bait pile 25 yards out and a camera.
Sun comes up, all is great.
Then I catch movement of a guy walking through the woods.  Cool, I'll wait till he gets a little closer, whistle at him and wave.
I do that when he is 30 yards away behind me.  He waves, continues to walk towards me, passes the tree I am in, waving again, walks up to my bait, throws out 2 apples in the middle of what I have down, walks back 15 yards and proceeds to sit at the base of a tree below me.
I was blown away.  I stayed put just to see how it would play out. 
I few hours later, he leaves.
I get down and go to camp.
That afternoon, I walk back in and the guy is laying down in the fetal position with limbs covering him beside my trail camera. 
I proceeded to laugh, make a lot of noise, grab my camera and left.
I still cant really believe there are other people hunting that have this mentality.  I F'in hate people and wish they could be taught lessons with pain. 

[KFhunter]

To all the people that say pack up and leave I disagree, these people have (or will) learn that if they horn in on a spot they can push out someone whose gone through all the trouble and effort to develop a spot...afterall its public land and legal right?

I say keep your spot and make it clear to them you wont be bullied out of the spot you developed and cultivated.

We really need to teach dbags some manners, eventually they'll try to horn in on the 'wrong guy' who wont back down and will teach them some brush ethics!

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[walt]

What if the guy with the blind has been hunting this spot for years.  He walks in to check for fresh sign and finds a tree stand and cameras, basically another hunter "claiming" the spot as his own?  I've read many, many threads on here where the overwhelming response to that situation is "I'd still hunt there" "He doesn't own the spot" or even "I'd climb in and use his stand if he's not there".  Personally I'd leave a note with my number and ask for a call to discuss it before jumping to conclusions about the guy or crapping in his blind but that's just me.

[Mtnwalker]

What if the guy with the blind has been hunting this spot for years.  He walks in to check for fresh sign and finds a tree stand and cameras, basically another hunter "claiming" the spot as his own?  I've read many, many threads on here where the overwhelming response to that situation is "I'd still hunt there" "He doesn't own the spot" or even "I'd climb in and use his stand if he's not there".  Personally I'd leave a note with my number and ask for a call to discuss it before jumping to conclusions about the guy or crapping in his blind but that's just me.

What!! No way, talking never solves anything! I say crap in the blind!!! 

[KFhunter]

What if the guy with the blind has been hunting this spot for years.  He walks in to check for fresh sign and finds a tree stand and cameras, basically another hunter "claiming" the spot as his own?  I've read many, many threads on here where the overwhelming response to that situation is "I'd still hunt there" "He doesn't own the spot" or even "I'd climb in and use his stand if he's not there".  Personally I'd leave a note with my number and ask for a call to discuss it before jumping to conclusions about the guy or crapping in his blind but that's just me.

If a spot has been hunted for years it'll be evident, brush will be cut, limbs cut, patch of bare dirt where salt was set...there's always signs someone has developed it.   

If it looks previously developed at some point then abandoned for several years, then have at it.   I find a spot like that I tend to move on because sure 'nuff I get it developed for myself and they'd come back the following year or two years later.   I prefer fresh never touched areas in a deep hole that hasn't seen a human in years, maybe that's why I never have these things happen to me 

[walt]

Many of the places I hunt are wallows, travel corridors, and natural feeding areas where you'd never know I've been there unless you find a boot track.  Just trying to look at it from another perspective.  And no, I'm not the guy with the blind. 

[KFhunter]

  

There's no clear cut rules of ethics, its highly situationally dependent.   

So in threads like these some folks are thinking of a specific stand they have or seen,
others are thinking of that guy that holds spots they don't really hunt by popping up a blind.   

One just has to come up with their own ethics for each situation. 

[RookieBow1967]

Knew this would smoke you out. Bottom line is that when you come into an area and set a ground blind up 10 feet away from a treestand, trail camera and established and maintained bait pile you are poaching off someone's hard work, time and money. Plenty of room to find your own spot and make your own stand.

Just takes me back to the story about the lake. If you got to the waters edge first, would it be right for you to jump in another persons boat and head out fishing? Would be right to grab one of their rods and go fishing with it? I mean, the lake is public land right?

Lots of land out there. You want to establish a bait pile on a certain spot? Get there first. It's just that simple. If you come across another persons stand, well, keep moving. Guess I am old school and the new flat brim hat crowd just does not see thing the way I do.   
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You are right about the "flat bill" gang there seems to be a disconnect between us and other generations. I have noticed my generation has a much higher tolerance of others. We share information regarding spots and don't hold public land as our own possession. The other generations are willing to share general hunting knowledge but are incredibly tight lipped about locations.

The fishing scenario is irrelevant and has little bearing on the present scenario.

As a new hunter as many of the "flat billers" I know are. We don't have a long history with the land. Nor have we established spots that we go to year after year. The whole move along argument is mute. The particular area our disagreement occurred in had many "spots" . No matter where you went on that property you were bound to be in someone's spot/area. Or you would be pushed to marginal areas.

I think a polite conversation is the best remedy. As after we both calmed down, we were able to have a conversation and stopped further conflicts between us.

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[2MANY]

People are strange.
I was in my treestand, a bait pile 25 yards out and a camera.
Sun comes up, all is great.
Then I catch movement of a guy walking through the woods.  Cool, I'll wait till he gets a little closer, whistle at him and wave.
I do that when he is 30 yards away behind me.  He waves, continues to walk towards me, passes the tree I am in, waving again, walks up to my bait, throws out 2 apples in the middle of what I have down, walks back 15 yards and proceeds to sit at the base of a tree below me.
I was blown away.  I stayed put just to see how it would play out. 
I few hours later, he leaves.
I get down and go to camp.
That afternoon, I walk back in and the guy is laying down in the fetal position with limbs covering him beside my trail camera. 
I proceeded to laugh, make a lot of noise, grab my camera and left.
I still cant really believe there are other people hunting that have this mentality.  I F'in hate people and wish they could be taught lessons with pain.

Perhaps a cougar had its way with him and cached him under the branches.
lol

[Taco280AI]

According to a lot of people here I can claim any public land as my own to hunt, and only mine, by putting out a bunch of stands. Interesting...