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New to fly tying
« on: December 25, 2019, 11:08:41 PM »
My wife was kind enough to get me a fly tying kit for Christmas ( basic tools, vise, bobbin, snips etc.)  But, what all should a beginner get as far as actual tying materials. Hooks, head cement, and various hackles etc? I been watching some YouTube videos on tying and it's information overload. I'm thinking I should pick a pretty general pattern and try and get comfortable with that and kinda go on from there. Any ideas?

If it matters I fish around the CDA river, Spokane river, and planning in trying to get over to Montana this summer
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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2019, 12:05:42 AM »
Youtube is definitely a good teacher, especially for replaying techniques over and over. Kelly Galloup has been doing a good job explaining some techniques.

As far as where to start ... I would ask what type of fishing are you going to be doing? Dry flies for trout? Nymphs? Wets? Streamers? Attractors? Terrestrials? I'm not familiar with the fisheries you mentioned, so give us some information to get started.

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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2019, 06:16:43 AM »
ITs sort of like introducing your kid to soccer........  grab tight and hang on! :yike:


Im not sure if books are still a thing, but get yourself one or two of them if you can.  I self taught that way.   Have patience.  You will have alot of failures before the finished product starts looking like you want it too.

Practice makes perfect.  I'm still practicing after about 40 years. 

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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2019, 07:53:58 AM »
 :yeah:

I learned on the "Jack Dennis Illustrated Fly Tying Manual" about 40 years ago (geez that sounds like a long time ago).
Tons of online resources these days. I'm sure you've googled "beginner fly patterns" etc.

Do you have a fly shop near? Could really help with basic materials and advice.

For patterns I'd stick with a few basic ones at first. Later you can tie specific patterns for water you plan to fish. Wooly worm/bugger/Carey Specials, hare's ear, basic hackle wet-flies or nymphs is where I'd start. Larger sizes are way easier to learn on- then work your way down.

Fun hobby. Addicting. Make sure you have a good light. A semi-permanent tying area is best. I rehabbed an old roll-top desk so I can just shut the lid between sessions.

Any more questions I'd be glad to help.
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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2019, 08:01:12 AM »
The fish are probably not as picky as you are, give them a shot and durability might be a bigger issue.  A bunch of Cutts can wear them out.  Remember the Wulf couple?  They tied in the middle of the stream as they fished.

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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2019, 08:37:48 AM »
Www.aprilvokey.com


Try to read/watch everything April Vokey has to say. She’s my favorite fly fisher.


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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2019, 09:25:09 AM »
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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2019, 09:41:51 AM »
The fish are probably not as picky as you are, give them a shot and durability might be a bigger issue.

Well said. I've tried for myself and commercially. Commercial flies are prettier cause you are also enticing the customer. Flies I tie for myself only have to entice the fish.

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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2019, 03:58:44 PM »
The fish are probably not as picky as you are, give them a shot and durability might be a bigger issue.  A bunch of Cutts can wear them out.  Remember the Wulf couple?  They tied in the middle of the stream as they fished.

Ain't that the truth. Learned that one fishing for steelies in Wa. Sound like I'm going to be heading to the fly shop this weekend and picking a few things up to get started.

As far as types of flies etc. I'm still learning how to fly fish so I'm kinda open to anything that may be effective. I've caught a few smaller trout on dry flies in the summer, but from what I've heard nymphs tend to work better in the fall/ winter.
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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2019, 04:05:15 PM »
My favorite and most effective flies are Wooly Buggers, Prince Nymphs, Adams and Rubber Leg Pats Stones. They are all pretty simple to tie and pretty much cover all your bases! Good luck, it is a very fun hobby!

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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2019, 06:50:26 PM »
As a guy who started from scratch in my teens, worked in fly shops, guided and taught fly fishing and tying classes, my suggestion is go to a fly trying class. Not only will you learn some of the basic techniques, patterns and how to use various materials, but you'll meet a bunch of like minded individuals who are generally very willing to share. I thoroughly enjoyed attending those classes when I was a novice, and enjoyed them as much when I became the instructor. The Silver Bow in Spokane should be able to point you in the right direction.
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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2019, 12:40:27 AM »
Right on! Now that you mention it I  think north 40 also does classes during the winter.
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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2019, 02:58:19 AM »
I started tying as a kid before you tube so books were about the only option for me. My 2 cents would be to start with a couple patterns that use only a couple materials. Invariably I would try something like a stimulator only to find some time in the middle of my first fly that I was missing something. My favorites now are an elk hair caddies as they are relatively easy and a black maribou leach to drag around if I’m in a lake. But like others have said it depends on how you plan to fish. Also, you can purchase a commercial fly at a shop to use as an example to help you with proportions to refer to. Good luck!


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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2019, 09:18:12 AM »
go down to silverbow flyshop by the valley mall.  get a a couple of the big orange stimulators with legs.  learn to tie these.  learn a couple nypmhs, and definitly learn to tie a gazzilion san juan worms,  use the san juan as a dropper or the nymphs (a guy at silverbow told me that using a san juan is cheating, so i told him "I dont care what you call it, my goal is to catch fish and that things catches fish"), and the big stimulator on top.  the stimulator is big and floats great and you can see it, the cutthroat on cda river, and st joe will gobble up those san juans and stimulators. the spokane river is an entire different monster,  i am no pro fly fisher, but i can cast and have a basic understanding, the spokane river is tough for me to catch trout, those fish are skittish, and there are so many different currents hapening that i struggle to get a good float.

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Re: New to fly tying
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2019, 12:19:04 AM »
Outdooraddict, that's been my experience with the CDA vs Spokane rivers as well. We have done allright on the cda but while I'm positive the Spokane holds fish, they seem pretty unwilling to take anything I've had to offer. Of course I am still learning and I'm sure making a ton of mistakes but what can you do, right?  Thanks for the tips on particular flies I'll make sure to add those to my list.
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