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Tell us what kind of groups your getting exactly.How many rounds through your barrel.Twist rate.More info on ammo you have tried ,and I'm sure you'll get more advise.
Buy a couple boxes of 69gr Federal GMM and see what it does.
Hopefully an Owner out there that is more versed in AR accuracy than myself. Been a long time since I had to worry about hitting the target with an AR style rifle and then it was an honest to god M16 where targets were marked by person stuck in the butts and targets were raised and lowered. Maybe I'm expecting to much from a gas gun but shouldn't an AR at least be able to produce .5 to .75 groups @ 100 yds. Using a factory built rifle have tried loads using various powders and bullet weights.. About ready to say screw it and rig it for spray and pray only
I think it is reasonable to expect 1 MOA from an off the shelf Stag. They aren't a low end brand. If you have a bad barrel that kind of sucks because they aren't known for their customer service. Nothing wrong with a minute of zombie rifle. If you really want to get into accuracy you probably want a free floated barrel anyways.
Even standard issue Colts you would be extremely lucky to shoot 2 MOA out of the box.But is that still true? From what I have seen all rifle barrels have improved in the last few years due to improved manufacturing techniques. I would bet that a DPMS Oracle off the shelf shoots around 1 MOA with the right ammo and they are as cheap as you can get. The problem though is that if shoots 2 or 3 MOA you have to deal with it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IPsLTuDk1A
Quote from: konradcountry on April 02, 2020, 06:34:37 PMEven standard issue Colts you would be extremely lucky to shoot 2 MOA out of the box.But is that still true? From what I have seen all rifle barrels have improved in the last few years due to improved manufacturing techniques. I would bet that a DPMS Oracle off the shelf shoots around 1 MOA with the right ammo and they are as cheap as you can get. The problem though is that if shoots 2 or 3 MOA you have to deal with it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IPsLTuDk1AI said standard issue Colts,Per contract the M4 Accuracy standard is 4 MOA. Though as you have said, they have improved. I still have yet to see a bone stock M4 hit better that 2 MOA, and those close were few and far between.
I said standard issue Colts,Per contract the M4 Accuracy standard is 4 MOA. Though as you have said, they have improved. I still have yet to see a bone stock M4 hit better that 2 MOA, and those close were few and far between.
I seen the pics of your reloading books I guess you are spot on with powder charge.You ever just tried a plain old soft point bullet there better for hunting anyway.Everybody says barrel ,have you tryed to clean that sucker I mean run your bore brush with solvent like 20 times through it.Ive I've seen accuracy improve greatly in some cheap as barrel with a good clean. Especially if you have ever shot factory ammo some of that stuff is so dirty.But ya that's my recommendation differentPowder chargeBulletsGood barrel clean See what happens I think you have to figure what she likes.
Quote from: hunter399 on April 03, 2020, 06:45:42 AMI seen the pics of your reloading books I guess you are spot on with powder charge.You ever just tried a plain old soft point bullet there better for hunting anyway.Everybody says barrel ,have you tryed to clean that sucker I mean run your bore brush with solvent like 20 times through it.Ive I've seen accuracy improve greatly in some cheap as barrel with a good clean. Especially if you have ever shot factory ammo some of that stuff is so dirty.But ya that's my recommendation differentPowder chargeBulletsGood barrel clean See what happens I think you have to figure what she likes.No not 20 times I went all the way back to "BOOT CAMP" and ran bore brush 50 strokes in and 50 strokes out, with new brush, swabbed and brushed 50 more. As afar as soft point yes have tried 55 grain Spitzter boat tails (SBT), 65 grain SBT with numerous different loads, and different primers CCI 400, and Fed 205's
Don't worry about all the other suggestions on here, buy some Federal GMM and let us know what it does. It will tell you what your rifle will do, eliminating your reloads as a factor. If GMM doesn't shoot there is something else going on. If GMM shoots, its your reloads, it's probably your reloads.
Quote from: 300rum on April 03, 2020, 07:08:40 AMDon't worry about all the other suggestions on here, buy some Federal GMM and let us know what it does. It will tell you what your rifle will do, eliminating your reloads as a factor. If GMM doesn't shoot there is something else going on. If GMM shoots, its your reloads, it's probably your reloads. I'm gonna second 300rum again. Get some off the shelf 69 grain and try it out. Video of a guy trying different loads with that gunwww.youtube.com/watch?v=mdzNr5jQoNE#t=3m51s
Thanks everyone for the responses and suggestions on what needs to be done to make this get at least get close to my expectations after all a rifle regardless of what kind it is if it isn't accurate it isn't worth being called a rifle. Maybe I'll never get it to be a 5 shot one hole performer but hopefully at least 5 of 5 in a quarter otherwise it's gonna be gone.