Best hunting rifle

[BULLBLASTER]

How is a 300 wsm different than shooting any other chambering offhand?

[buckfvr]

My thought is most guys never practice off hand and hope like hell they never have to while hunting.  "Improvised" is the most common hunting shot position as in over a branch, stump, blow down, rock, hump, anything but off hand.

[konradcountry]

How is a 300 wsm different than shooting any other chambering offhand?

Well compared to a 7mm-08 or 6.5 creedmoor there is a noticeable difference in recoil.

There is always some guy at my range holding on tight to a braked 300 WSM and still gets pushed around. No way that guy can shoot freehand to even 50 yards.

[Igor]

Shooting is offhand.

Writing is freehand.

[konradcountry]

Shooting is offhand.

Writing is freehand.

Had no idea there was an official shooter's dictionary.

Maybe you could source it.

Or stop wasting time with pedantry.

[Bango skank]

I dont know, offhand shots at game tend to be sudden fast action encounters where recoil is the farthest thing from a guys mind.  Sitting on the bench you know its coming.  In a sudden exciting hunting situation that would cause a guy to shoot offhand, i dont think recoil / flinching comes into play very much. 

[konradcountry]

I dont know, offhand shots at game tend to be sudden fast action encounters where recoil is the farthest thing from a guys mind.  Sitting on the bench you know its coming.  In a sudden exciting hunting situation that would cause a guy to shoot offhand, i dont think recoil / flinching comes into play very much.

Why would someone that struggles with the recoil from a bench be able to shoot freehand in a fast encounter?

For many that is the first time they would be shooting it while standing.

That is wishful thinking.

[Igor]

Offhand

http://www.mssblog.com/2016/12/08/skills-approach-offhand-shooting-like-a-pro/

Freehand

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/freehand

[Bango skank]

I dont know, offhand shots at game tend to be sudden fast action encounters where recoil is the farthest thing from a guys mind.  Sitting on the bench you know its coming.  In a sudden exciting hunting situation that would cause a guy to shoot offhand, i dont think recoil / flinching comes into play very much.

Why would someone that struggles with the recoil from a bench be able to shoot freehand in a fast encounter?

For many that is the first time they would be shooting it while standing.

That is wishful thinking.

I know for myself that i never notice recoil at all in a hunting situation.  If somebody struggles on the bench theyre going to suck period, offhand or not.  I dont think theyd suck worse offhand based off recoil.  If a gun is too much gun for a guy it will be too much gun for him regardless, but i would think it would be more pronounced on the bench when hes anticipating the recoil.

That being said, if a guy is overgunned and struggling on the bench, he wont be able to get his gun zeroed very well.  But lets take a hypothetical situation:

Flinchy mcsissy has a 338 ultraslammermagnum.  Hes a flinchy wuss.  Death grip on the bench, scared of his gun, cant get it zeroed.  So his friend helps him out and gets his zero dialed, gun is shooting 1/2 moa, we know its zeroed properly, life is good.
  Flinchy still sucks on the bench.  Hes shooting 3" groups.  We know its user error due to flinching.
  I bet hed be much less imcompetent off hand than on the bench.  His adrenaline is going, the critter is close, he has 2 seconds to react.  Hes not anticipating the recoil.  Its the farthest thing from his mind.  That removes the major factor in his crappy shooting.

[konradcountry]

Offhand

http://www.mssblog.com/2016/12/08/skills-approach-offhand-shooting-like-a-pro/

Freehand

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/freehand

So you sourced a blog post and a dictionary that says nothing about guns. Ok then.

It's a general adverb that can be applied to many activities.

[10thmountainarcher]

300 WSM recoil without a break isn’t bad at all. My 300 Win Mag was much worse imo.

[Igor]

Offhand

http://www.mssblog.com/2016/12/08/skills-approach-offhand-shooting-like-a-pro/

Freehand

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/freehand

So you sourced a blog post and a dictionary that says nothing about guns. Ok then.

Yep....the blog post is about shooting offhand.

The dictionary definition of freehand says nothing about shooting, because shooters don't use the term freehand.  It's a style of writing.

[h20hunter]

Good and great...free or offhand....done.  We don't need to derail the topic over something so minor. Let it go.

[Taco280AI]

Yep....the blog post is about shooting offhand.

Yep.... the thread is about the best hunting rifle

[konradcountry]

I know for myself that i never notice recoil at all in a hunting situation.  If somebody struggles on the bench theyre going to suck period, offhand or not.  I dont think theyd suck worse offhand based off recoil.  If a gun is too much gun for a guy it will be too much gun for him regardless, but i would think it would be more pronounced on the bench when hes anticipating the recoil.

I'm gonna disagree because most people shoot better on a bench. I don't see a hunting situation improving accuracy when these guys have never shot while standing. 

A lot of these 300 WSM rifles are heavy while a 708/6.5 on average is a lot lighter. So it's not just recoil. 

I'm not trying to insult 300 WSM owners. This is just what I see at the range and I don't recommend them for that reason.