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I will say I am not the biggest 30 cal. fan but at those distances and on elk I would probably opt for the 308 over the 6.5 Creed. I like the 165/168 gr bullets for the 30 cal. non magnums so I would probably go that route. If those were my guns and only 2 choices I would be loading 308 with 168 gr Barnes TTSX. Again only my opinion based off the 2 options given.
Quote from: bobcat on June 16, 2022, 05:37:50 PMEither cartridge will work but I'd prefer the 308, and no ELD-X bullet no matter which one you use. That's not an elk bullet, in my experience.Bobcat once again a speaks the truth. My unpopular opinion, 6.5creed is not an elk gun. Me personally, wouldn’t even use it for mule deer. Shooting targets and/or maybe a whitetail under 200 yards.
Either cartridge will work but I'd prefer the 308, and no ELD-X bullet no matter which one you use. That's not an elk bullet, in my experience.
The 6.5 cm has stacked quite a body count of deer, elk, bears, etc since it came put. Its almost on par with the 6.5-284 and people have one and done on elk out to 700-800 yards with that round. Im not saying the average shooter/hunter should try that… but the 6.5 cm with the right bullet and you doing your job right, will drop an elk. Personally i prefer my 300 win mag or 300 wby mag… but if i had to choose between a 6.5 cm and a .308 win, id probably choose the 6.5 cm as an overall round. You can kill game animals with it or load up some match/lr bullets and pop targets at 1,000 yards and a mile relatively easily.
Quote from: W_Ellison2011 on June 17, 2022, 12:01:32 PM This was a question of caliber not shooter. I can shoot very accurate. An can haven't elk with a bow. My question was caliber difference not accuracy otherwise I would have said that. The 6.5 cm has stacked quite a body count of deer, elk, bears, etc since it came put. Its almost on par with the 6.5-284 and people have one and done on elk out to 700-800 yards with that round. Im not saying the average shooter/hunter should try that… but the 6.5 cm with the right bullet and you doing your job right, will drop an elk. Personally i prefer my 300 win mag or 300 wby mag… but if i had to choose between a 6.5 cm and a .308 win, id probably choose the 6.5 cm as an overall round. You can kill game animals with it or load up some match/lr bullets and pop targets at 1,000 yards and a mile relatively easily.Not trying to be a PITA, but everybody, except a very few, are an "average shooter/hunter".There is a world of difference, ballistically, between a 6.5 cm and a .300 WM, or a .300 Wby Mag.
This was a question of caliber not shooter. I can shoot very accurate. An can haven't elk with a bow. My question was caliber difference not accuracy otherwise I would have said that. The 6.5 cm has stacked quite a body count of deer, elk, bears, etc since it came put. Its almost on par with the 6.5-284 and people have one and done on elk out to 700-800 yards with that round. Im not saying the average shooter/hunter should try that… but the 6.5 cm with the right bullet and you doing your job right, will drop an elk. Personally i prefer my 300 win mag or 300 wby mag… but if i had to choose between a 6.5 cm and a .308 win, id probably choose the 6.5 cm as an overall round. You can kill game animals with it or load up some match/lr bullets and pop targets at 1,000 yards and a mile relatively easily.
I messed up the last quote. So my original theory was on caliber between the 2 not accuracy. I can shoot better then most an I know a bow hunter can harvest an elk with a stick an blade. So let's keep it to that. Big calibers can do the trick for people you can't shoot they need that knock down power. But I believe in 1 shot 1 harvest. 300 yards was pushing it for me for clean kill. Don't want the animal to suffer. Just wanted opinions
Quote from: jason stevens on June 17, 2022, 07:21:15 PMI messed up the last quote. So my original theory was on caliber between the 2 not accuracy. I can shoot better then most an I know a bow hunter can harvest an elk with a stick an blade. So let's keep it to that. Big calibers can do the trick for people you can't shoot they need that knock down power. But I believe in 1 shot 1 harvest. 300 yards was pushing it for me for clean kill. Don't want the animal to suffer. Just wanted opinionsI've killed multiple deer (mules and whitetail) and a very large black bear all with one shot with a 6.5 shooting the 143 ELDX and varied ranges from 100 put to 350 yards and none have gone more than 30 yards. A friend has also killed a Roosevelt cow at 250 and the round put a tennis ball sized hole in the ribs. I've recovered perfectly mushroomed bullets like the picture shows on the box. My limit is 400 yards and I won't hesitate to shoot any Washington animal with a 6.5. I also shoot a lot and am very proficient with my rifle.