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Rumor has it at $15,000 in damages including 55 ipilot Terrova. We’ll know for sure no later than Tuesday I believe.
Quote from: HntnFsh on October 14, 2022, 06:09:46 AMQuote from: Alchase on October 13, 2022, 10:07:41 PMQuote from: Skillet on October 13, 2022, 08:08:18 PMQuote from: metlhead on October 13, 2022, 07:39:19 PMWho would be considered at fault in this instance?Per the COLREGs, if blacklab was anchored AND flying the round black ball, likely the tug. But in many other situations, he would have been the stand-down vessel.Radar is not that expensive guys, and if you choose to go out in foggy conditions on navigable waters where working men are operating tugs and barges to make a living without radar you are taking on a tremendous risk. Blacklab, I'm sorry that you and your wife found yourself in this terrifying situation, but you should consider yourself very, very lucky nobody was seriously hurt or killed. If you continue to insist on going out in fog on navigable waters, I'd hope you add a radar to the repair/refit bill. Even if you had right of way per the COLREGs, you still got away with one. I'm reminded of a famous nautical poem:"Here lies the body of Johnny O'DayWho died Preserving His Right of Way.He was Right, Dead Right, as he sailed alongBut he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong." Holy crap!Glad no one was seriously hurt!Sadly as Skillet said the downriver tug would have right of way. Even if he did not, it would take lots of proof and a lawsuit to prove otherwise. GPS data may help if you were not in the navigable channel.Here I am being a keyboard non expert, but I dont think they have to be in the shipping channel. You could be correct, I could not remember.........Quote from: Blacklab on October 14, 2022, 06:17:00 AMIf we had been anchored. We would not be having this conversation Scary thought My dad and I were fishing Sekiu for Silvers in a Olsen's rental boat. We were pretty far out and had a couple fish already in the boat when fog rolled in. All he had was an old compass. Sound in the fog can be misleading. We could hear the tankers passing, but could not tell where or how close until the fog started to lift, and a tanker was long side of us about 100 feet away. We never heard anything but the bow wave. We were pretty quiet all the way back to port.
Quote from: Alchase on October 13, 2022, 10:07:41 PMQuote from: Skillet on October 13, 2022, 08:08:18 PMQuote from: metlhead on October 13, 2022, 07:39:19 PMWho would be considered at fault in this instance?Per the COLREGs, if blacklab was anchored AND flying the round black ball, likely the tug. But in many other situations, he would have been the stand-down vessel.Radar is not that expensive guys, and if you choose to go out in foggy conditions on navigable waters where working men are operating tugs and barges to make a living without radar you are taking on a tremendous risk. Blacklab, I'm sorry that you and your wife found yourself in this terrifying situation, but you should consider yourself very, very lucky nobody was seriously hurt or killed. If you continue to insist on going out in fog on navigable waters, I'd hope you add a radar to the repair/refit bill. Even if you had right of way per the COLREGs, you still got away with one. I'm reminded of a famous nautical poem:"Here lies the body of Johnny O'DayWho died Preserving His Right of Way.He was Right, Dead Right, as he sailed alongBut he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong." Holy crap!Glad no one was seriously hurt!Sadly as Skillet said the downriver tug would have right of way. Even if he did not, it would take lots of proof and a lawsuit to prove otherwise. GPS data may help if you were not in the navigable channel.Here I am being a keyboard non expert, but I dont think they have to be in the shipping channel.
Quote from: Skillet on October 13, 2022, 08:08:18 PMQuote from: metlhead on October 13, 2022, 07:39:19 PMWho would be considered at fault in this instance?Per the COLREGs, if blacklab was anchored AND flying the round black ball, likely the tug. But in many other situations, he would have been the stand-down vessel.Radar is not that expensive guys, and if you choose to go out in foggy conditions on navigable waters where working men are operating tugs and barges to make a living without radar you are taking on a tremendous risk. Blacklab, I'm sorry that you and your wife found yourself in this terrifying situation, but you should consider yourself very, very lucky nobody was seriously hurt or killed. If you continue to insist on going out in fog on navigable waters, I'd hope you add a radar to the repair/refit bill. Even if you had right of way per the COLREGs, you still got away with one. I'm reminded of a famous nautical poem:"Here lies the body of Johnny O'DayWho died Preserving His Right of Way.He was Right, Dead Right, as he sailed alongBut he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong." Holy crap!Glad no one was seriously hurt!Sadly as Skillet said the downriver tug would have right of way. Even if he did not, it would take lots of proof and a lawsuit to prove otherwise. GPS data may help if you were not in the navigable channel.
Quote from: metlhead on October 13, 2022, 07:39:19 PMWho would be considered at fault in this instance?Per the COLREGs, if blacklab was anchored AND flying the round black ball, likely the tug. But in many other situations, he would have been the stand-down vessel.Radar is not that expensive guys, and if you choose to go out in foggy conditions on navigable waters where working men are operating tugs and barges to make a living without radar you are taking on a tremendous risk. Blacklab, I'm sorry that you and your wife found yourself in this terrifying situation, but you should consider yourself very, very lucky nobody was seriously hurt or killed. If you continue to insist on going out in fog on navigable waters, I'd hope you add a radar to the repair/refit bill. Even if you had right of way per the COLREGs, you still got away with one. I'm reminded of a famous nautical poem:"Here lies the body of Johnny O'DayWho died Preserving His Right of Way.He was Right, Dead Right, as he sailed alongBut he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong."
Who would be considered at fault in this instance?
If we had been anchored. We would not be having this conversation