Electric trucks ? No thank you

[timberfaller]

The ONLY reason I am against EV's is simple, to get all the components, you are in the process of destroying the planet!!   Going "green" is at best, Hypocritical  After a EV is done, it become toxic waste. 

Ya it would take decades to get the infrastructure in place, BUT, what is the left doing to make that impossible???  Oh ya, tear out dams, shut down coal and nuclear.  Wind and solar ARE NOT going to be able to meet the needs, beside, after 25 years THEY become toxic waste!!

Yep going green is only about the green going into politicians and lobbyist bank accounts!

[GOcougsHunter]

The ONLY reason I am against EV's is simple, to get all the components, you are in the process of destroying the planet!!   Going "green" is at best, Hypocritical  After a EV is done, it become toxic waste. 

Ya it would take decades to get the infrastructure in place, BUT, what is the left doing to make that impossible???  Oh ya, tear out dams, shut down coal and nuclear.  Wind and solar ARE NOT going to be able to meet the needs, beside, after 25 years THEY become toxic waste!!

Yep going green is only about the green going into politicians and lobbyist bank accounts!

I couldn't agree more.  The sheer stupidity of the ultra green movement drowns out real discussions on how to logically and effectively move technology forward.  The ultra green movement isn't patient nor pragmatic.  They get lost in their own myopic sound chamber and screw up true innovation and providing real solutions to what the future requires.  Innovation doesn't have to be tied to Wind or Solar, humans can and will figure all of this out eventually... we are actually pretty creative when we can get out of our own way.

[ducks4days]

The ONLY reason I am against EV's is simple, to get all the components, you are in the process of destroying the planet!!   Going "green" is at best, Hypocritical  After a EV is done, it become toxic waste. 

Ya it would take decades to get the infrastructure in place, BUT, what is the left doing to make that impossible???  Oh ya, tear out dams, shut down coal and nuclear.  Wind and solar ARE NOT going to be able to meet the needs, beside, after 25 years THEY become toxic waste!!

Yep going green is only about the green going into politicians and lobbyist bank accounts!

Not to mention all of the cadmium mining equipment is still running on diesel. Seems like we should go green at the source first but that would involve politicians having more than 2 braincells to rub together.

[jackelope]

The ONLY reason I am against EV's is simple, to get all the components, you are in the process of destroying the planet!!   Going "green" is at best, Hypocritical  After a EV is done, it become toxic waste. 

Ya it would take decades to get the infrastructure in place, BUT, what is the left doing to make that impossible???  Oh ya, tear out dams, shut down coal and nuclear.  Wind and solar ARE NOT going to be able to meet the needs, beside, after 25 years THEY become toxic waste!!

Yep going green is only about the green going into politicians and lobbyist bank accounts!

I think I seen somewhere that America was like number 26 in the world when it comes to MATH.

Whats the ole saying?   Figures don't lie, but liars figure!!

type in EV nightmare into a search, lots to read!  Of course the libs and LSM don't know math either!

Seems like there is more to your dislike than just the going green but destroying the earth part.

[2MANY]

People are Pissed.

They are tired of others shoving things down their throats that they don't want or agree with.

VOTE!!!

[baldopepper]

Personally not sure I want a bigger pick up.that only gets about 250 miles before needing a charge.  Size makes it not fun for Round town driving and mileage limits make it not good for many outdoor activities. We've got the Maverick for our around town basic needs and a F--150 for bigger trips and loads.  I can buy one of each for the cost of a decked  out Lightning
 
 

[gaddy]

Sure wish America could come up with something similar to the Toyota 91 t-100 or something similar in a beast that lasted. OH WAIT --  That was the old Chev's and Fords, OK I'll include Dodges, with out all of the bull sh!! electronics.

[Caseyd]

Sister got her quad motor Rivian SUV the other day. 830 horsepower, 900 ft lbs of torque, 0-60 3.0 seconds. Range of 350 miles gets you one way a lot of places in the state  Longer trips theyll just drive their gas vehicles.

[MADMAX]

Im not against electric in theory
Figure out the lithium battery BS and disposal

And 70-90 K is too much for any truck IMO
Especially one that you need a backup vehicle for
Might as well get a bicycle

[jackelope]

Reading through the complaints over the years on EVs reminds me of what would have been discussed 100 years ago with the transition from horses to gas powered vehicles.  I am sure that there were discussions that "those worthless gas cars can't even clear a downed tree in the path...  my horse can simply step over the log.  you can only go 80 miles... where my horse can go for hundreds...  cost of maintaining a car is more than a horse... gas station infrastructure is lame here in 1923.. yaddah yaddah."   As a shade tree mechanic who struggles with finding the correct trouble code to diagnose some ridiculous faulty sensor to get my gas powered truck running.... I am looking forward to less complication in my vehicle.  And the one thing EV trucks have that I am really looking forward to is the comical amount of torque an electric motor produces.  Take a ride in a Rivian some day and you will clearly see that Electric Trucks will be far superior to overly complicated gas engines.  EV truck technology is not there yet and I have no plans to get one until I can tow my boat or trailer across the state without having to stop every 100 miles to recharge.  I am a patient man and will wait for the technology to evolve.  It took 100 years to go from a Model T to a modern F350. Current EVs aren't a magic bullet but, humans are very creative... we will figure it out.

Might as well be a communist country.

https://youtube.com/shorts/E0X0wUiJCBE?feature=share

[highcountry_hunter]

The ONLY reason I am against EV's is simple, to get all the components, you are in the process of destroying the planet!!   Going "green" is at best, Hypocritical  After a EV is done, it become toxic waste. 

Ya it would take decades to get the infrastructure in place, BUT, what is the left doing to make that impossible???  Oh ya, tear out dams, shut down coal and nuclear.  Wind and solar ARE NOT going to be able to meet the needs, beside, after 25 years THEY become toxic waste!!

Yep going green is only about the green going into politicians and lobbyist bank accounts!

Not to mention all of the cadmium mining equipment is still running on diesel. Seems like we should go green at the source first but that would involve politicians having more than 2 braincells to rub together.

Then there’s also the cobalt mining to make all the lithium batteries, but that runs on legit human slave labor. Men, women and children in the Congo mining with pick axes for $1/day.


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[CP]

In my limited experience operating an EV, I’ve found that there is no charging infrastructure.  Not one that can be relied on anyway.  Yeah, you can use the Ford app, or the Tesla app or Plugshare, but the information is likely incorrect.  And when you find a charging station it is likely to be inoperative or incompatible or you don’t have the right account to use it.

Many charging stations are vandalized, the cords are stolen for scrap copper, or they just are not maintained.

So, plan on charging at home.  And yeah, charging takes a while, so take a nap or something.  And if your round trip exceeds your range, drive something else.  So, if you can’t make it to your cabin on a charge, you have the wrong vehicle. 

But these are just tools, and like all tools, you need the right one for the right job.  It’s not your screwdriver’s fault that it doesn’t drive nails very well. 

[CP]

You’re only supposed to charge them to 90%.

So, you pay for and haul around 10% more battery than you are supposed to use?  Sounds like a waste of money.

Do they put in little firmware "features" that prevent fully charging the battery? 

[jackelope]

You’re only supposed to charge them to 90%.

So, you pay for and haul around 10% more battery than you are supposed to use?  Sounds like a waste of money.

Do they put in little firmware "features" that prevent fully charging the battery?

https://www.eigen.energy/articles/extending-ev-battery-life

I’m not an engineer and don’t pretend to know what I’m talking about with EV’s.  I’m fairly sure that with the Fordpass app and a Ford vehicle you can preset the level of charge you want.

[10thmountainarcher]

I have a Mach-E and love it… With that said, it was purchased for the trips a little closer to home. We still have two ICE vehicles for the trips a little further from home.

Like Jackelope said, you can set the charge level in the Ford app so it stops charging at 90%. There’s a fella on the Mach-E forums who charges to 100 every single day and has something like 60k on his car already with no battery degradation to note.