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There are a ton of 2013 - 2018 Ford Focus EVs for sale! Battery life = between 3-5 yearsBattery Replacement costs = between $23,559 and $23,690. Labor costs are estimated between $502 and $633 while parts are priced between $23,057 and $23,057.
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the issue with battery disposal.
Quote from: Alchase on October 05, 2023, 08:19:30 AMThere are a ton of 2013 - 2018 Ford Focus EVs for sale! Battery life = between 3-5 yearsBattery Replacement costs = between $23,559 and $23,690. Labor costs are estimated between $502 and $633 while parts are priced between $23,057 and $23,057. Been with Ford over 10 years now. The only Focus EV battery I’ve ever replaced was due to an accident. It was damaged in a crash. I’m not sure who came up with those numbers as far as battery life. I can’t back that up with what I’ve seen. With that said, there are not many Focus EV’s around. I did replace a Mach E battery a few months ago. The dead no profit cost of the battery was $32k. We couldn’t mark it up but if we could, at Ford warranty parts markup, it would have been around $65k.
Yeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming...
Quote from: LDennis24 on October 05, 2023, 08:21:38 PMYeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming... I’m not here to support the EV nonsense at all, but the Ford high voltage battery systems have their own cooling systems. Fans and coolant. Just like a regular engine.
Quote from: jackelope on October 05, 2023, 08:25:16 PMQuote from: LDennis24 on October 05, 2023, 08:21:38 PMYeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming... I’m not here to support the EV nonsense at all, but the Ford high voltage battery systems have their own cooling systems. Fans and coolant. Just like a regular engine.But is that coolant system running while charging the vehicle? What happens to the battery life during those times? What kills batteries is temperature and over and under charging. Which means that if you dont completely charge your battery to the recommend specs every time you are degrading it's life and who has time to always wait several hrs to fully charge a battery on a trip?
Right, it's pretty easy to find a high speed charging location in major cities. But I still don't get how the temperature doesn't kill them.
Quote from: LDennis24 on October 05, 2023, 08:29:56 PMQuote from: jackelope on October 05, 2023, 08:25:16 PMQuote from: LDennis24 on October 05, 2023, 08:21:38 PMYeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming... I’m not here to support the EV nonsense at all, but the Ford high voltage battery systems have their own cooling systems. Fans and coolant. Just like a regular engine.But is that coolant system running while charging the vehicle? What happens to the battery life during those times? What kills batteries is temperature and over and under charging. Which means that if you dont completely charge your battery to the recommend specs every time you are degrading it's life and who has time to always wait several hrs to fully charge a battery on a trip?This is over my head from a knowledge standpoint. I’m not an engineer and I’m not up to snuff on my super high tech ev car battery knowledge. I know they’re different from your typical Duracell AA battery. I’ll leave that up to the pros. As far as charging, it doesn’t take “several hours” to charge a battery on road trips if you plan your trip and hit the public(not sure if that’s the right word) level 3 chargers along the way. Those big chargers will charge your car in under an hour. I thought that was pretty common knowledge.I guess with that said, using a fully electric vehicle on a road trip is a dumb idea. If someone is actually doing that, they hopefully have done their homework and hopefully know and fully understand the downfalls at this point in time to road tripping in an EV.Folks I’ve talked to at work usually have another vehicle with a traditional engine for road trips or they rent cars. That seems to be the common response.