Meat transportation .. Requirement for weight of boned out deer?

[shag]

Dose it list in the regs or is there a weight the fish and game dept expects us to have as far as boned out meat goes??




Thanks

[billythekidrock]

I don't think so....why?

[boneaddict]

I suppose if they suspect you left a bunch on the carcass they could go check and nail you then

[shag]

Just curious if they have any expectations..   Most critter get boned out now(for me) anyway.

[billythekidrock]

I doubt there is a weight requirement but anyone should be able to tell if you have more or less than what you should.

Gamie: "Uh, excuse me sir. You only have one tag but you have 4 backstraps. Care to explain?".

[bucklucky]

Idaho does check, but I dont think washington weights the meat.

[bobcat]

That would be a stupid thing for game wardens to waste their time on. If somebody doesn't get all the meat off an animal it's their loss. Why should the state care? It's not like somebody is going to leave meat in the woods on purpose! 

[bucklucky]

Thats was the problem , they had a certain weight that it should be and if it wasnt you get a ticket. Makes people think twice about leaving any meat. I have heard stories from people that have been checked in Idaho and ticketed. (Customers)

[bobcat]

Stupid!  If somebody leaves 5 pounds of meat, intentionally or not, big deal. Something will eat it!

It would be nice if game wardens would go after actual poachers instead of picking on the easy targets.

[bucklucky]

I guess they hit the fly in camps the hardest that are on the runways. ! gammie sat there and watched a guy bone out his deer, kept telling him there better not be a scrap of meat left on those bones.

[billythekidrock]

That would be a stupid thing for game wardens to waste their time on. If somebody doesn't get all the meat off an animal it's their loss. Why should the state care? It's not like somebody is going to leave meat in the woods on purpose! 

Ever find a dead animal in a nasty spot with only the hindquarters and backstrap taken? Lots of meat is wasted every year by hunters who are only out for horns or hides as well as guys that get one down in a tough area.

[bobcat]

No I haven't and can't imagine someone leaving a significant amount of meat. I still think it's a waste of time for them to go around weighing meat. But yeah, if someone obviously left a large portion of an animal in the woods, they deserve a ticket.

[ICEMAN]

Who is wildlife to judge your pile of meat? Screw that! Maybe you hammered a shoulder so bad...half the shoulder was blood shot. Maybe you gave a quarter to a guy for helping you pack it out....your helper could possess info to remain legal, and you need nothing explaining where 25% of your meat went. I ate a ton of it at camp. I fed it to my dog. Screw them. Cite me, I have plenty of lawyers in the family.

[bobcat]

Good post Iceman.

I had another thought. What about all those animals you hear about, especially the ones shot by archery hunters, that they leave out there all night and go back in the morning to follow the blood trail to the animal. Depending on the temperature, in many cases much of the meat on animal left ungutted on the ground all night, is not going to be any good. Or, some or all of it could have been eaten by a bear, or coyotes. Could a warden ticket someone for having a head and little or no meat to go along with it?

[bucklucky]

Good questions and comments. I dont have the answers though 

[tonymoe]

how in the hell could they put a number on what the weight should be? Oh, I forgot, all animals are the same size and therefore weigh the same?

[tonymoe]

swhunter, I understand and fully practice what you said. If I don't need it legally or for taxidermy reasons, it won't come with me.

[tonymoe]

I think a lot of times it is honestly so funny how some people write down screw them it's my rights blah blah. If you sit back and think about it for a while and instead ask your self why. Alaska is another state that does not weigh their meat but they are very knowledgable and knows what kind of meat you should have for what kind of animal and I have been checked numerous times to see if I had the approximate amonut of meat. I have even had to take a game warden about 6 miles cross country to show him my moose carcus to prove I got as much meat as possible off. Too bad he was a new guy and did not know the area that well I am sure he will always remember our walk through the swamp.

Here is why they do as they do as told to me by a Game Warden in Alaska, as for a hunter like me or yourself we believe in taking out all meat to feed our families. A lot of these hunters that fly in to Alaska, Idaho or wherever else they do not care about the meat, They are after horns and hide only. Do you honestly think that Agnew gave a rats a$$ about the meat off that elk he took last year? I don't. I think it is a good system in place. If you sit back and think about it. Just my  

I don't personally know what your saying, but I have read a few articles on how the locals get pissed off at the rich *censored*s that fly in to alaska, shoot a giant and just expect the locals to take the meat. It ends up becoming a frantic time with people trying to find folks to take meat

[bow4elk]

I guess they hit the fly in camps the hardest that are on the runways. ! gammie sat there and watched a guy bone out his deer, kept telling him there better not be a scrap of meat left on those bones.

In Alaska, this is true.  They are hardcore about taking every edible scrap of meat, included all rib meat, neck meat up to the jaw, etc.  They will check carcasses.  It's a general rule to take before and after photos of your animal as it lay when you approached, during the boning out process, and the carcass (from several angles) after you're done, preferably with you in them.  Seems nuts to me but they've had problems in the past and I don't blame them for cracking down on it.

[actionshooter]

We were checked on a runway in Idaho last year. Let me tell you, they are serious.  The cooler "felt a little lite" but after looking thru it he said it was OK.

 In parts of Alaska you have to pack out quarters BONE-IN,  that can be a major bitch!!

 With those experiences I've had, I'm still in favor of wastage laws. Its unfortunate they are needed, but scumbags DO waste meat.

[whacker1]

One of my friends shot a mule deer in Idaho a few years ago that we didn't find that night.  When we did find it - the wolves had cleaned it off.  Nothing worth keeping, it was picked clean.

[boneaddict]

You use the word quarters Loosely.    The hams on my bull Bone in were 180 each.

[actionshooter]

You use the word quarters Loosely.    The hams on my bull Bone in were 180 each.

In the unit I was in, the bone in law was required for moose also. I never did figure out how you would do that   
 I was hunting caribou= much easier 

[NRA4LIFE]

Just be thankful we CAN cut them up and pack them out.  In WI where I grew up you still have to take deer and bear to a state licensed check station and they have to be whole.  Gutting is allowable but nothing else.