2025 Draw Results

[LarryMarquette]

My wife and I will be busy this year! She drew an awesome New Mexico archery bull tag in the rut and I finally got lucky here with a cow tag and late whitetail tag! Good luck and congrats to everyone who drew tags!!

[avidnwoutdoorsman]

Hit on two draws this year across all categories both Antlerless (1334 and 2276). Will see if I need to fill them after the regular seasons or my trip to MT.

Keeping my average up with 14 draws since I started applying in '18

But now I have jinxed it!

Side question... are they re-issuing tags yet or how has that whole processed worked? Really jinxing myself now but if I do well in MT and find my first Bull during general here in WA, I'd probably definitely give my tags back if I knew they'd re-issue...? I don't think I could give my 2276 tag back but that would be obvious too if I killed during general I cant hunt it anymore so same question. Can you give a late season Antlerless tag back if you kill during general? I know you have to return it within two weeks of the hunt but does it benefit another hunter is what I am asking or am I just going to get my points?

[Boss .300 winmag]

Congratulations ever one who drew this year, last year was a great feeling drawing a QT deer tag, even better eating it. Good luck to all, didn’t apply for anything this year so I’m not in the looser lounge.🤣

Just can’t decide if I’m hunting modern, or archery this year for deer.🤔

[6haase6]

Might not be many that see it the same as me but I think they should cut choices in half for permits or change them all to only two choices like quality.

I have been saying this for years, would love to see them limit the choice options. Similar to how Idaho does it. Hard to think that State would willingly give up that much cash though.

But this would make no difference on odds of drawing. And sure wouldn't change anything as far as money spent on applications.

I beg to differ. How many guys fill up four choices because they are there and our chances suck. I’ll be the first to say it every one of my app choices has a number in it of possible. If you took oils and quality down to one choice and all the rest two, that puts my name in for a quarter of the oils and half all the others. If half the applicants use every choice as do I that’s a good number of names not in the hat. Would’ve given some other guy a buck tag this year that valued the tag more than I did.

[trophyhunt]

For those guys who hunt/apply out of state, question, if you had max points in other states draws, what would your chances of drawing be?    In 2018 I had 13 points for Wyoming, I had a 50% chance at a top tier tag, and drew.  I’m just guessing my odds this year in Wa w 30 points were below 5%??

for hunts like you apply for here? About the same.

my bull tag had 11 tags and just over 800 apply.  Wasn’t like I’m trying to get one of two tags with 3,000 applicants.

So roughly 1 available tag per 80 applicants, in a random draw if you applied for that tag 30 times you'd still have roughly a 68% chance of NOT drawing. With the amount of high point holders in WA its silly to think you should be guaranteed a tag with odds like that, even sitting on 30

I understand, but not many high point holders apply for this, in fact, I was the highest point holder that applied for this hunt a couple times.  Now the WDFW doesn’t show us that break down, those reports were nice to see.  About 6-8 years ago I was the first loser, they had 8 tags back then, I was number 9, ouch!  Last year with 29 points, I was over 4 thousand, 4k down the loser list!! To me that’s just unbelievable for a guy w 29 at the time.  No idea yet where I landed this year, but to be over 4k on the loser list with 29 points seems like the system is really messed up. 

[6haase6]

For those guys who hunt/apply out of state, question, if you had max points in other states draws, what would your chances of drawing be?    In 2018 I had 13 points for Wyoming, I had a 50% chance at a top tier tag, and drew.  I’m just guessing my odds this year in Wa w 30 points were below 5%??

for hunts like you apply for here? About the same.

my bull tag had 11 tags and just over 800 apply.  Wasn’t like I’m trying to get one of two tags with 3,000 applicants.

So roughly 1 available tag per 80 applicants, in a random draw if you applied for that tag 30 times you'd still have roughly a 68% chance of NOT drawing. With the amount of high point holders in WA its silly to think you should be guaranteed a tag with odds like that, even sitting on 30

I understand, but not many high point holders apply for this, in fact, I was the highest point holder that applied for this hunt a couple times.  Now the WDFW doesn’t show us that break down, those reports were nice to see.  About 6-8 years ago I was the first loser, they had 8 tags back then, I was number 9, ouch!  Last year with 29 points, I was over 4 thousand, 4k down the loser list!! To me that’s just unbelievable for a guy w 29 at the time.  No idea yet where I landed this year, but to be over 4k on the loser list with 29 points seems like the system is really messed up.

Where do you see where you fell in the list?

[trophyhunt]

For those guys who hunt/apply out of state, question, if you had max points in other states draws, what would your chances of drawing be?    In 2018 I had 13 points for Wyoming, I had a 50% chance at a top tier tag, and drew.  I’m just guessing my odds this year in Wa w 30 points were below 5%??

for hunts like you apply for here? About the same.

my bull tag had 11 tags and just over 800 apply.  Wasn’t like I’m trying to get one of two tags with 3,000 applicants.

So roughly 1 available tag per 80 applicants, in a random draw if you applied for that tag 30 times you'd still have roughly a 68% chance of NOT drawing. With the amount of high point holders in WA its silly to think you should be guaranteed a tag with odds like that, even sitting on 30

I understand, but not many high point holders apply for this, in fact, I was the highest point holder that applied for this hunt a couple times.  Now the WDFW doesn’t show us that break down, those reports were nice to see.  About 6-8 years ago I was the first loser, they had 8 tags back then, I was number 9, ouch!  Last year with 29 points, I was over 4 thousand, 4k down the loser list!! To me that’s just unbelievable for a guy w 29 at the time.  No idea yet where I landed this year, but to be over 4k on the loser list with 29 points seems like the system is really messed up.

Where do you see where you fell in the list?

unfortunately there isn’t a place to look, there should be!!  Just have to call and hope to get the right person, right now they are pretty busy, I’d wait a couple weeks.

[Squatch200]

I drew a quality peaches archery tag that I’m pretty excited about and I know the area pretty well. My 17 year old drew a quality muzzy Alta deer tag. Pretty pumped and we have some scouting to do for that one at least the roads system.

[bobcat]

Might not be many that see it the same as me but I think they should cut choices in half for permits or change them all to only two choices like quality.

I have been saying this for years, would love to see them limit the choice options. Similar to how Idaho does it. Hard to think that State would willingly give up that much cash though.

But this would make no difference on odds of drawing. And sure wouldn't change anything as far as money spent on applications.

I beg to differ. How many guys fill up four choices because they are there and our chances suck. I’ll be the first to say it every one of my app choices has a number in it of possible. If you took oils and quality down to one choice and all the rest two, that puts my name in for a quarter of the oils and half all the others. If half the applicants use every choice as do I that’s a good number of names not in the hat. Would’ve given some other guy a buck tag this year that valued the tag more than I did.

Sure, certain hunt permits might become easier to draw. There's no way of really knowing how that would work out. But overall there's no way the odds would change. Same number of people applying for the same number of permits equals the same odds. I know quality deer and elk permits used to be 4 choices, and went to only 2. That sure didn't seem to make things any better.

[Stein]

The odds may change if there was only one option.  If everyone decided to put in for the hard draw the easier ones would have more applications.

Any way you look at it, too many people applying for too few permits equals horrible odds. 

The only way to reliably improve the odds is to remove more choices.  If you could only put in for one elk tag total (choose quality, bull or cow), the odds of a given tag would go up.  This won't happen as the revenue would go down and many people like buying a bunch of applications.

We're stuck with the system, it generates maximum revenue for WDFW and hunters are eternal optimists.

[Nwgunner]

Drew Cowiche unit quality elk.. Holy Smolleys, wasn't expecting that with 9 points.  Luckily it was my first choice and kinda my home unit.  Now if anyone has any info on access from Nasty creek hit me up please.

[dreamingbig]

For those guys who hunt/apply out of state, question, if you had max points in other states draws, what would your chances of drawing be?    In 2018 I had 13 points for Wyoming, I had a 50% chance at a top tier tag, and drew.  I’m just guessing my odds this year in Wa w 30 points were below 5%??

for hunts like you apply for here? About the same.

I have better odds for hunts I apply for in Arizona and New Mexico!


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[duckmen1]

For those guys who hunt/apply out of state, question, if you had max points in other states draws, what would your chances of drawing be?    In 2018 I had 13 points for Wyoming, I had a 50% chance at a top tier tag, and drew.  I’m just guessing my odds this year in Wa w 30 points were below 5%??

for hunts like you apply for here? About the same.

my bull tag had 11 tags and just over 800 apply.  Wasn’t like I’m trying to get one of two tags with 3,000 applicants.

So roughly 1 available tag per 80 applicants, in a random draw if you applied for that tag 30 times you'd still have roughly a 68% chance of NOT drawing. With the amount of high point holders in WA its silly to think you should be guaranteed a tag with odds like that, even sitting on 30

I understand, but not many high point holders apply for this, in fact, I was the highest point holder that applied for this hunt a couple times.  Now the WDFW doesn’t show us that break down, those reports were nice to see.  About 6-8 years ago I was the first loser, they had 8 tags back then, I was number 9, ouch!  Last year with 29 points, I was over 4 thousand, 4k down the loser list!! To me that’s just unbelievable for a guy w 29 at the time.  No idea yet where I landed this year, but to be over 4k on the loser list with 29 points seems like the system is really messed up.

Where do you see where you fell in the list?

unfortunately there isn’t a place to look, there should be!!  Just have to call and hope to get the right person, right now they are pretty busy, I’d wait a couple weeks.

Seems odd to call wdfw to say hey I lost the permit system. Can you tell me by how much I lost. I guess I just don’t see the point in taking up their time in regards to the matter since a loss is a loss. And there is always next year with hope.

As Ricky Bobby remembers the saying “if you ain’t first your last.” Very true in this circumstance. And well that’s me this year. Last. lol of course due to circumstances I wasn’t putting in for tags. But excited to see individuals on here draw and update how their seasons go with their tags. Always a blast to hear the stories.

[JDArms1240]

Drew quality deer in the sauk.  For a couple days I've been feeling resentful cause I didnt draw any tags, I just checked my emails, saw that I didnt get any from WDFW!  I just decided to check the portal and BAM!.... SELECTED!

I'll take it!

[TexasRed]

My 12 year old drew the Yakima north muzzy tag as well. I know 340 and 342 very well will likely try to kill a cow there in the usual spots before general opens, not sticking around after that. But might just hunt 346. Haven't spent any time in there at all, have never had a reason to until now... Good luck, feel free to pm.

i got naches cow rifle my son got youth yakima north muzzy cow and my dad got peaches ridge rifle bull looks like ill be in naches for a month