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CWD according to Uncle Ted
« on: August 26, 2025, 02:27:51 PM »

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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2025, 03:48:43 PM »
I don't agree with all of his points but I do agree with the point about hysteria.
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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2025, 04:14:24 PM »
He needs to stick to strumming his guitar. Only someone who's never seen what that stuff can do to a herd would spout such nonsense I'm not sure what the various agencies are attempting will help, but I do know that stuff can devestate a herd.

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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2025, 04:20:56 PM »
He's a smart man, love it when he destroys liberals. 
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2025, 04:37:51 PM »
I enjoy his passion.
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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2025, 08:29:03 PM »
He needs to stick to strumming his guitar. Only someone who's never seen what that stuff can do to a herd would spout such nonsense I'm not sure what the various agencies are attempting will help, but I do know that stuff can devestate a herd.
Actually look what the government did when it came to covid, think I would trust ole Ted before any gov. or state dept. has to say about matters

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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2025, 09:44:56 PM »
He needs to stick to strumming his guitar. Only someone who's never seen what that stuff can do to a herd would spout such nonsense I'm not sure what the various agencies are attempting will help, but I do know that stuff can devestate a herd.
What herd has been devastated by CWD?

I’ve found that game departments reactions to CWD vs can devastate a herd but it seems like anyplace CWD is prevalent tends to have robust deer populations


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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2025, 09:59:31 PM »
Hunted the La Salles out of Moab for about 25 years. Usual day of hunting we'd see 50+ deer and then they started finding dead deer in the area and discovered the cause was cwd.  We saw it, the zombie looking deer in their last thros as did everyone else who hunted the area. It took 4-5 years to turn an area where in a weeks hunt you see 300-400 deer into an area where you'd be Lucy if you saw 1or 2 a day. The area is still considered a cwd hotspot and the herd is not even close to recovery.. Be as skeptical as you want, but you better hope that stuff doesn't break out where you hunt

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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2025, 10:25:55 PM »
I’ll be hunting the La sals in about 4 weeks, reports are the deer population is doing very well down there. I don’t doubt your experience but it has not been mine.


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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2025, 10:30:26 PM »
https://www.boone-crockett.org/population-level-effects-chronic-wasting-disease

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Three studies have been published recently from central Colorado and southeast Wyoming, the area where CWD was first documented in wild deer (Miller et al. 2008, DeVivo 2015, Edmunds et al. 2016).  All three studies measured survival and reproduction of deer with CWD and deer without detectable CWD.  Survival of CWD-positive deer was 20–40% lower than CWD-negative deer.  Curiously, no difference was noted in reproductive rates as a result of CWD status.  Two of the studies had good population monitoring programs that showed declines in population size of 40–50% in the past 10–20 years.  Finally, authors in all 3 studies used reproductive rates and mortality rates to calculate annual changes in population size as a result of CWD.  Populations with CWD declined 3–20% per year but would have been stable or increasing without CWD.

3-20% declines per year are brutal.

Wisconsin did a big study with equally bad news.

Here's a another study that arrives at a 10% annual population decline:   https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6778748/

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Chronic wasting disease has an ecologic, economic and social effect, with deep impact on the viability of cervid populations. An experimental study found a 60% decline in full-term viable offspring born to CWD-positive muntjac dams. Modeling studies have shown an annual population decline of 10.4% in white-tailed deer and 21% in sympatric mule deer populations in southeastern Wyoming, corroborating the population-limiting impact of CWD

One more:  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5004924/

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There are few studies on population-level effects of CWD on cervid populations. One such study was conducted on a mule deer population near Boulder, Colorado, USA [10]. Deer abundance declined 45% during 1988–2006. It was believed CWD had been endemic since 1985 and was highly prevalent (males = 41%; females = 20%). The decline was attributed to high prevalence of CWD resulting in low overall adult survival (0.72).

It seems complicated because some cervid populations are growing and some are declining for reasons not related to CWD.  It is pretty clear that CWD is a negative on all populations.  If the population is growing by 20% and CWD drags that to 10% growth, maybe not as big of an issue, but for stable or marginally increasing populations, it's tipping the scale to negative herd growth.

A disease that is nearly 100% fatal and highly contagious can't be a good thing to any population.

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Re: CWD according to Uncle Ted
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2025, 07:36:08 AM »
I’ll be hunting the La sals in about 4 weeks, reports are the deer population is doing very well down there. I don’t doubt your experience but it has not been mine.
Good luck!  Beautiful area to hunt.  Went down with my nephew two years ago after a few years away.  Found him a buck, but area was still no where near what it used to be.  Stopped at the cwd checking station on the way home and wardens said hunt had been extremely slow. Told us numbers were improving a bit, but still way down. Most of the deer they had checked had been taken on the big cwmus in the area.




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