Imported canadian wolf kills

[boneaddict]

I accidentally called one in last fall.  Hes lucky I didn't accidentally loose an arrow at him.

[boneaddict]

oops my finger slipped. 

[wolfbait]

I agree that a canine and cat kill should be somewhat different, but- what evidence is there that this was wolf kill?  Tracks don't make necessarily indicate a wolf kill to me because they could have been scavenging a carcass.  How do we know she didn't die calving?

Dogs could have killed this cow also, who knows?  Wolves are just becoming a convienient scapegoat.

Tracks don't mean a thing....coyotes eat on carcasses all the time- that doesn't mean they killed it.

The cow had already had the calf a few days before.  The problem with not dealing with a few stock killing wolves when it happens is they will turn other wolves into stock killers. In Montana a pack of 23 wolves were shot for killing livestock. The scapegoat excuse will not fly here for very long, this wasn't the first cow that wolves in the Methow have killed and the one up Hornet draw won't be the last. SF may be able to bs the fan, but not the players. This is an exzample of why wolves are so hard on ranchers, the pro-wolf people will blame everything else before the truth that a wolf killed the ranchers stock. 90% of wolf killed stock are not compensated for, if the stock is not investigated very soon then it will more than likely not be confirmed, and from the looks of things in SF's case, will never be confirmed.

[runniNgunnin]

the world or atleast our country is just going to crap, all i hear about any more is how the gov, and obama is screwing the working man, and how the FS and wolfs and anti's are screwing hunters which ARE/IS the working man... sometimes i think a good revolution is just around the corner.... 

[wolfbait]

Don't let it get you down, take one battle at a time, try to change or help change the things you think you can, and don't worry about the thngs you can't. No one knows the future. Except Idaho, Montana an Wyoming, they can tell you what the wolves will do to the state of Wa.

[wolfbait]

From an editorial found in the Casper Star Tribune on August 4, 2009.

……conservation groups say that a coal - bed methane gas drilling plan in Campbell and Johnson counties “threatens to encroach upon the prized Fortification Creek elk herd.”

Their concern for the elk is touching. Where is that concern for the elk that inhabit the northwest parts of the state? Are they not prized? Why weren’t they raising alarms and saying that wolves “threaten to encroach” on the elk herds in and around Yellowstone National Park back when wolves were first brought here? Where is their concern now that those elk numbers are a fraction of what they used to be?

Tom Remington

[bearpaw]

I said it definitely did not look like a cougar kill, I have never seen a cougar eat on any animal that way.

Judging from other photos of wolf attacks, and the comments about the kill as it was originally found, there is high probabilty this was a wolf attack. Granted there is not 100% proof, but even 50% probability means 1 in 2, and I just talked to a rancher in the Okanogan the other night who told me there is another dead cow and the state is investigating trying to figure it out now....hhhhmmmmm

The attached photo is a confirmed wolf attack in MT, I see similarities.....

[mulehunter]

No Wonder why Feds Taught all DIRTY way to save their FUNDS from all of loss livestock Animals. No wonder why Biologlist were TRAINNED to LIE! So they get paid good money instead pay for any LOSS livestock Expense.

Mulehunter 

[wolfbait]

Someone caught the "well-behaved" wolves killing their chickens again in Libby cr.
 Would appear the wolves are starting their valley floor raids. I wonder if the chicken ranchers will have to move their flock?

[mulehunter]

Wow,  I believe this female with several new pups hanging out there. I see why she bring pups to learrn how to hunt small animals below valley.

Now what? Are they gonna removel those pack? I aint think so. Judge just told wolves ur just got dropped charge on many murder cases. Here ur free to go and enjoy more kills. U have free jail tickets from Feds remember that.
No wonder why Feds give judge a bonus to wavied all cases on wolves by biologlist.
How long will this keep doing? 15 years later from TODAY
More and more packs are moving down to ur honeyhole. Because biologlist will never support all ranchers.
Mulehunter 

[boneaddict]

The track I found was amazingly close to the valley floor.    I think one of those pups would make a perfect soft hat for late muzzel season.

[mulehunter]

   Oh boy my first Remember day were on libby road almost 2 half years ago. Whole pack were walking on road.  I remember seeing 8 hanging out.
I could always find tracks up there today

I know a guy from Police over there his wife went for walk with dogs on libby rd. She saw her with few pups 1 month ago. Maybe more than 4 over the hill.
No wonder pups start to learn how to kill livestock better than Deer.
Ranchers are gonna be angry soon.

Mulehunter 

[boneaddict]

Idabooner heard them back up on Lookout yesterday.  I need to go stand up there with a steak tied to my ass to see if I can get some pics.  I think I can get them to sound off with my bearmanric coyote howler. 

[wolfbait]

Wolves have been seen quite regularly on the south summit. Someone has pictures of 8 puppies taken on the south summit, but he is unwilling to share. Kind of blows  estimates of the 1 or 2 pup survival rate. Trailcam time

[Kain]

call olympia and ask we all need to know

video would be even better.....

PS - don't try to get around the law, just call and find out, then post here, everyone will want to know.

No go on calling wolves.  It is weird because I normally get a response from an actual person not a generic email.  I also asked them to point me to the law that prohibits calling but they didnt.

Dear Mr. Kain,

 

We will be happy to send you copies of photos of the wolves in Washington that were from remote cameras or from the brief capture and radio-collaring of the male wolf, but it would be illegal to call and locate them for purposes of photo opportunities.  The wolf is an endangered species in Washington under both state and federal law.  The federal listing includes the western 2/3 of Washington, and they are state listed throughout Washington.  This activity (calling wolves in for purposes of photographing them) would be considered harassment and would not be conducive to protecting the wolves from disturbance; repeat calling can also push wolves out of their use areas. We appreciate your interest in this state endangered species, and request that you not attempt to call wolves for photo opportunities in Washington.

 

If you have any further questions, comments, or concerns please feel free to contact the Wildlife Program at (360) 902-2515.

 

Sincerely,

 

Wildlife Program Customer Service

 

(360) 902-2515

TTY: (800) 833-6388

Fax: (360) 902-2162

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