The guy I'm refering to, the one he claimed to have taken the pics on the pen.from BTC, the one that answered you,told me via phone a year ago, that he couldn't remember where he placed a trail cam, kinda lost it. Months went by, he finally remembers where he placed it, finds it, low and behold, here's a pic of this giant non-typ. Now he's saying he took the photo with a 35mm camera up on the Olympic Peninsula? This is also coming from a guy that posted pics of NW Trek bulls, stating he ran into em' down in Toledo as well. He pulled the pics when another member posted the same bulls, in the same pond. I for one would like to know if this buck is ligit or not, or just another internet fairy tale.Sorry for the confusion BTKR. Later