Thanks for the response. Never hunted there before our group spends a lot of time in SW WA (Vancouver lake area) hunting but it has not been too good. My folks have a place in Surfside and I have always wanted to try it so I figured I would ask the experts. We do have a boat, but it is probably not bay worthy. We were thinking of trying the Ledbetter unit but I'm not real sure where to go. I just need to spend some time and do some scouting of the area before I get to serious about just showing up and thinking we are going to have half a clue. Thanks again Happy T-day!