8 different special apps pools!

[WDFW-SUX]

 

[Bigshooter]

If I remember right the westside eastside elk thing that was talked about last year, said you still only get to hunt one side or the other but you could put in for permits on both sides.

[yelp]

I hope they come up with a permit application package deal like they do for licenses..save me a little money. LOL

[WDFW-SUX]

Im going to get on there lay away plan..spread it out alittle make some payments.

[yelp]

Im going to get on there lay away plan..spread it out alittle  make some payments.

Wouldn't that be nice..12 payments of $7.99.  Sign up by May 1st and get a free access decal.  LOL

[rougheye]

They are going to run out of RED ink in the new regs 

[JBar]

I can't keep up with this damn thread without making my head hurt again so if this has been suggested then disregard. I would rather see the premium type hunts bumped up in fees ( say $20 ) and/or a waiting period ( 2 years ) for successful apps or a point minimum ( 2 points ) before you can apply again. You can either put in for lesser hunts while waiting or accrue the points while you wait. I'm not a mathematician but I think that would reduce apps and increase odds.

[billythekidrock]

So I am still confused about "8 deer categories" and "8 elk categories". How much is this going to cost?

I think these permit packages listed below are the proverbial carrot to the current stick (8 categories).

Three deer
One additional- any buck black-tailed deer, one
additional any buck mule deer, and one additional any buck
white-tailed deer; total harvest not to exceed three animals.


North East Washington Big Game
Permit hunter may harvest three of six possible
species. Species that may be harvested under this permit
One additional any buck white-tailed deer, one
additional any bull elk, one any bull moose, one additional any
legal cougar, one additional any legal black bear, and one
additional any legal turkey

South Central Washington Big Game
one additional- any bull elk, one additional- any buck
deer, and one California bighorn sheep
ram; total- harvest not to exceed three animals.

South East Washington Big Game
Permit hunter may harvest four of five possible
species. Species that may be harvested under this permit
include: One additional- any buck white-tailed deer,' one
additional any buck mule deer, one additional any bull elk, one
additional any legal cougar, and one additional any legal black
bear; total harvest not to exceed four animals.

North Central Washington Big Game
Permit hunter may harvest three of five possible
species. Species that may be harvested under this permit
include: One additional any buck white-tailed deer, one
additional any buck mule deer, one any ram California bighorn
sheep, one additional any legal cougar, and one additional any
legal black bear; total- harvest not to exceed three animals.

[boneaddict]

Where are the goats? 

[yelp]

So I am still confused about "8 deer categories" and "8 elk categories". How much is this going to cost?

I think these permit packages listed below are the proverbial carrot to the current stick (8 categories).

Three deer
One additional- any buck black-tailed deer, one
additional any buck mule deer, and one additional any buck
white-tailed deer; total harvest not to exceed three animals.


North East Washington Big Game
Permit hunter may harvest three of six possible
species. Species that may be harvested under this permit
One additional any buck white-tailed deer, one
additional any bull elk, one any bull moose, one additional any
legal cougar, one additional any legal black bear, and one
additional any legal turkey

South Central Washington Big Game
one additional- any bull elk, one additional- any buck
deer, and one California bighorn sheep
ram; total- harvest not to exceed three animals.

South East Washington Big Game
Permit hunter may harvest four of five possible
species. Species that may be harvested under this permit
include: One additional- any buck white-tailed deer,' one
additional any buck mule deer, one additional any bull elk, one
additional any legal cougar, and one additional any legal black
bear; total harvest not to exceed four animals.

North Central Washington Big Game
Permit hunter may harvest three of five possible
species. Species that may be harvested under this permit
include: One additional any buck white-tailed deer, one
additional any buck mule deer, one any ram California bighorn
sheep, one additional any legal cougar, and one additional any
legal black bear; total- harvest not to exceed three animals.

These special raffle permits maybe easier to put in for..LOL  CHeaper too.  Odds of drawing?..LOL

[ABugg]

Change often sucks, but I don't think this will be any more confusing than the current system and does have some potential advantages.  According to the 2nd or so post in this thread...WDFW freq asked questions...WDFW is adjusting the current structure to 8 new categories each for deer and elk.  Each category is drawn from separately; points are earned or deducted accordingly from only those categories applied/drawn in.  Current point balances are applied across all categories; their example, if you have 10 points now, you'll start with 10 points in each category if the change goes through.  

No packages...you simply apply for permits from each that you want to hunt in.  There will likely be some new hunts added, but essentially take the current permit hunts and reclassify them into the new categories.  If you look at the 2009 Deer Permit hunts for rifle hunters for example.  Under the special restrictions column  hunt 1000 is a white-tailed hunt from Nov 20-24, a whitetail hunt during the rut, this goes into the quality hunt category; permit hunt 1091, a blacktail hunt from Nov 1-24, the blacktail rut, goes into the quality hunt category;  many of the antlerless permits go to the 2nd tag category, the non-rut any buck permits in a different category, and so on.  So for me, I have 2 points now.  If the system is changed next year, I'll end up with 2 points in each category.  I'll buy a quality hunt permit and a 2nd tag permit; I likely won't get drawn for the quality and will accumulate another point in that category, while at the same time maybe I get drawn for a 2nd tag and kill a doe; I start over in this category with 0 points.

The devil is in the details, though and how this affects draw odds will depend upon how permit numbers are changed and how much the change attracts hunters to apply in multiple categories; where fewer people might have applied for the does, opting instead to apply for a buck rut hunt only, will likely now apply for both.

    

[boneaddict]

So is this a done deal and we are past the public input stage?

[Cougeyes]

I can't keep up with this damn thread without making my head hurt again

That is why i gave up and will wait until the comment period on this if there will be one.  

[Curly]

Change often sucks

True that.  I HATE change.  

You know what though.....?  Change may suck often, but the WDFW lately always Sucks and so does this proposal........ (of course you're entitled to your opinion, though)....

[Cougeyes]

So is this a done deal and we are past the public input stage?

The commission is scheduled to take public comments in advance of their March 11-12 meeting and take action on the permit proposals at the April 9-10 meeting.  The specific proposals will be available for comment in early February.

Taken from page 1, apparently it isn't a done deal.