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Offline SWHUNTER

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« on: January 21, 2010, 04:27:28 PM »
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 04:31:31 PM »
"Keepers of the land" my ass! :bash:
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 08:43:04 PM »
People better get the message now. We need to stop killing wild steelhead on all waters in Wa. This is just one more reason. We need to put every wild fish on the gravel that we can or our kids won't be fishing for them.

If we stop it will help put more presure on the tribes to rethink their ways.

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 07:29:19 AM »
great law...i'm all for it.
fishcrazy is 1million% correct.
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 07:38:45 AM »
People better get the message now. We need to stop killing wild steelhead on all waters in Wa. This is just one more reason. We need to put every wild fish on the gravel that we can or our kids won't be fishing for them.

If we stop it will help put more presure on the tribes to rethink their ways.

Kris

"rethink there ways" that would mean they had to think there ways in the first place. the state needs to rethink there *censored*. as far as im concerned we are all american and as such should abide by the same laws

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 07:44:22 AM »
People better get the message now. We need to stop killing wild steelhead on all waters in Wa. This is just one more reason. We need to put every wild fish on the gravel that we can or our kids won't be fishing for them.

If we stop it will help put more presure on the tribes to rethink their ways.

Kris

Kind of confused here??? stop killing them, I agree with 100%. Then you say we need to put every fish we catch on the gravel that we can??? If they are on the gravel don't that mean we killed them???   Like said I agree 100% to stop killing the natives.
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2010, 08:38:21 AM »
Putting them on the gravel is meant to say let them spawn and not put them in the cooler. Every fish that gets past the nets should be allowed to spawn.


Yes we should all be under the same rules. But reality is that they have their own laws. I like what the Colville tribe has been doing with nets. They have been doing allot of testing on beach seines. They have found the mortality rate has gone to nearly 0 on wild fish released. Why can't the coastal tribes buy into this. They could harvest more hatchery fish and get the wild ones back on the spawing beds.  Something to think about is what will happen when the feds step in and shut the tribe down. How much $$$ will they give the tribes? If they stop on their own they get no $$$$

I agree WDFW is not doing what they can. Look at the history on nisqually steelhead runs. It was the last river in WA to have a 3 fish limit on wild fish. Now you can't fish them at all. The rest of the state is going to follow one system at a time.

On our side of the fence I think people need to realize having a good time is not measured on fish in the box at the end of the day. So many people can't put a wild fish back because they feel they have to take something home or it was a wasted trip.

Another thought that popped into my head where is CCA when it comes to the tribes?

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 08:39:28 AM »


"rethink there ways" that would mean they had to think there ways in the first place. the state needs to rethink there *censored*. as far as im concerned we are all american and as such should abide by the same laws
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Bingo!


Hey jackelope, do you do any river fishing in February, March or April?
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sure do...why? i haven't kept a fish i caught in years unless i was in the salt. that includes salmon, trout, steelhead, bluegills, sturgeon, bass, whatever other species you can come up with.

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 08:40:21 AM »
p.s. i wish all of washington was catch and release for native steelhead everywhere all of the time.
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2010, 08:46:41 AM »
don't they get closed every year anyway? is this really anything new? maybe it's new for the skagit/sauk system i guess.
even with catch and release too many fish die...even the best at handlign fish will kill fish. the simple fact is that too many dudes need to have their trophy pose with their fingers in the gills and the fish out of the water too long and the list goes on and on...
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 09:11:18 AM »
the simple fact is that too many dudes need to have their trophy pose with their fingers in the gills and the fish out of the water too long and the list goes on and on...


Exactly!!! We have another case of the few that ruined it forthe rest.


Leaving a river open to not put pressure on the rest? I'm not sure I understand. These fish are in serious trouble so lets keep the pressure on them?

Or shut it down and give them a break and while we are at it lets shut down the catch and kill season on everything.

I don't think any rivers made escapement last year and probably won't this year. A sobering thought to those who think they are going to continue to fish for and kill the wild steelhead.

I'm hoping to get out this weekend for some wild fish. but I know one thing they will all be alive and well at the end of the day. I might have a few dead ones that are short one fin. :chuckle:

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 01:14:21 PM »
 It doesnt matter if we fish or not as long as the tribes have nets in any system that system will fail. i started to CnR back in the 80s, and sorry i ever did. The DFW cannt stop the tribes and they dont truely give a damn! Its so sad :'(

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 04:54:58 PM »
It doesnt matter if we fish or not as long as the tribes have nets in any system that system will fail. i started to CnR back in the 80s, and sorry i ever did. The DFW cannt stop the tribes and they dont truely give a damn! Its so sad :'(

I won't be caught up in the race to kill the last wild steelhead. I hope I can see my grandkids land one and can't justify killing them myself. Especially when they have already made it past the nets.

If we stop it's our only chance to get the tribes to atleast cut back on wild harvest and possibly use more wild fish friendly means of harvest.

Youre statement about tribel nets in a system is 100% correct.

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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2010, 09:52:13 AM »
It doesnt matter if we fish or not as long as the tribes have nets in any system that system will fail. i started to CnR back in the 80s, and sorry i ever did. The DFW cannt stop the tribes and they dont truely give a damn! Its so sad :'(

so you have changed your mind now and want to be part of the problem? good logic.
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Re: And yet another screwing
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2010, 10:08:06 AM »
It doesnt matter if we fish or not as long as the tribes have nets in any system that system will fail. i started to CnR back in the 80s, and sorry i ever did. The DFW cannt stop the tribes and they dont truely give a damn! Its so sad :'(

so you have changed your mind now and want to be part of the problem? good logic.


 


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