thinking about getting a Diesel. Help!

[MichaelJ]

  Diesels are just way too complicated.

Diesel engines are actually less complicated than gas engines are.

Yeah that!

Michael

[fishcrazy]

For fuel additive you can't beat a 2% biodiesel mix. So simple and you will not find anything that can do more good to a motor.

Kris

[teal101]

For the cummins the best additive is actually 2-stroke oil.  It provides extra lube for the vp44 injection pump and prolongs the life of it.

[6x6in6]

For the cummins the best additive is actually 2-stroke oil.  It provides extra lube for the vp44 injection pump and prolongs the life of it.

And it's the worst thing you can do to a common rail fuel delivery system.

[elk311]

I have a 2005 Cummins 5.9/610 (wrapped in a Dodge 2500 4x4 Quad cab) and love it !!! Won't go back to gassers. Manual transmission with Jacobs brake.    Towing RV, motorcycle/atv, family of 5 with all the gear you can imagine including 60 gallons of water, kayak and canoe to Yellowstone = 14.9mpg.

Same family of 5, no trailer or gear in bed of truck to Yellowstone 2 years later 24.6mpg.  

www.turbodieselregister.com

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

As stated numerous times before you will FIND fault with all models. I have always been a Ford man myself and if I could have found an F250/F350 with a stock Cummins that's what I'd have. Do the research for yourself and enjoy.

[6x6in6]

All Ford PSD owners should have this website bookmarked. 

http://www.destroked.com/

[fishcrazy]

Actually the brand of motor has nothing to do with how much an additive helps the fuel pumps. I will see if I can find the Study with lab results done on several of the common additives. It included 2 stroke oil and bio diesel. 2 stroke oil is good stuff and I have dumped it i my truck but it still won't get close to a small amount of bio diesel. It will surprise allot of people that the stuff they use is no better than regular diesel. LOL


Kris
Found it and started another topic

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44950.0.html

[Viszla]

Quote from: Rick on Yesterday at 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: Viszla on Yesterday at 10:28:48 AM
  Diesels are just way too complicated. 


Diesel engines are actually less complicated than gas engines are.


Yeah that!

Michael

Seems complicated to me, 12 pages and counting...
I'm no diesel expert but I sure am more confused now than ever.  From oil to fuel additves to fuel pumps, Yikes!!

[C-Money]

Ford's 6.8L V-10 gas is the greatest! 

[MichaelJ]

Seems complicated to me, 12 pages and counting...
I'm no diesel expert but I sure am more confused now than ever.  From oil to fuel additves to fuel pumps, Yikes!!

You think talking about fuel pumps, and oil/fuel additives is bad?
Start a thread about which ford/chevy/dodge small block is the best and you'd get the same thing though probably much more... except you'd be talking carbs, cubic inches and how some small blocks really aren't small blocks, headers, exhaust, efi (both throttle body injection and multiport), rearends, compression, forced induction (both turbos and blowers), ignition systems, nitrous....etc

Diesels are imho more simple, but certainly aren't more complicated.  Boost+fuel-heat=power... though I'm no expert I haven't owned one so I haven't taken the time to learn about the newer ones.  I know the cummins 12V is about as simple as you can get and they can make awesome power and a durable.  I'm not interested in powerstrokes or duramaxs so I have no idea on them other than my friends' trucks.

Michael

[teal101]

For the cummins the best additive is actually 2-stroke oil.  It provides extra lube for the vp44 injection pump and prolongs the life of it.

And it's the worst thing you can do to a common rail fuel delivery system.

Like I said for the vp44 injected rigs, it works.  I have no clue about the common rails as they are 03 and up and I have zero experience with them.

[teal101]

Quote from: Rick on Yesterday at 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: Viszla on Yesterday at 10:28:48 AM
  Diesels are just way too complicated. 


Diesel engines are actually less complicated than gas engines are.


Yeah that!

Michael

Seems complicated to me, 12 pages and counting...
I'm no diesel expert but I sure am more confused now than ever.  From oil to fuel additves to fuel pumps, Yikes!!

If that's confusing to you, a gas engine debate will make your head explode.  This thread has barely scratched the surface on a lot of diesel tech.

[Rick]

Quote from: Rick on Yesterday at 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: Viszla on Yesterday at 10:28:48 AM
  Diesels are just way too complicated. 


Diesel engines are actually less complicated than gas engines are.


Yeah that!

Michael

Seems complicated to me, 12 pages and counting...
I'm no diesel expert but I sure am more confused now than ever.  From oil to fuel additves to fuel pumps, Yikes!!

Lets look at a couple items you mentioned.

A diesel engine basically uses two different oil viscositys. A 15w40 or a 5w40. There are a couple others but they aren't common.

A gas engine might use 0w20,0w30,0w40,5w20,5w30,5w40,10w30,10w40,15w40,15w50. Thats not even counting SAE30,SAE40,or SAE50 for the guys that like single weight oils.

There are a few common diesel additives. Power Service,Primrose,Howes,Stanadyne,and a couple others.

For gas engines there are literally aisles in the parts store dedicated to additives.

If you don't have experience with a diesel,they can seem intimidating. But in reality they're less complicated than a gas engine all the way around.