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Wolfbait, where are you getting you're 6 confirmed wolf packs in WA in 1992???Michael
Quote from: bearpaw on March 03, 2010, 09:33:02 PMTo elaborate further with facts, hunters currently harvest an average of 8,000 elk and 38,000 deer in all areas of Washington (see page 78, page 83, of the Washiongton Draft wolf plan). When 471 wolves are eating elk and 864 wolves are eating deer, there can be 0 human harvest or herds will decline. Throw another 250 wolves (governnment reproduction numbers of roughly 20% to 24% annual reproduction) on the landscape in the next spring and game herds decline anyway.Now this is why I make so much noise about wolves..... From studies done in the other states, where these wolves have plenty to eat they are increasing 50%. In 08 Mech said there were estimations of 3000, so the next year the number would double. Washington had 6 confirmed wolf packs in 1992, and up to 200 wolf sightings.
To elaborate further with facts, hunters currently harvest an average of 8,000 elk and 38,000 deer in all areas of Washington (see page 78, page 83, of the Washiongton Draft wolf plan). When 471 wolves are eating elk and 864 wolves are eating deer, there can be 0 human harvest or herds will decline. Throw another 250 wolves (governnment reproduction numbers of roughly 20% to 24% annual reproduction) on the landscape in the next spring and game herds decline anyway.Now this is why I make so much noise about wolves.....
that's poor reporting. any "packs" then were not documented or known. The WDFW is pretty much handcuffed by the process and documentation is a challenge. There were not six documented packs.
I suppose we need to debate what the definition of "is" is.... Do we need to get into the same kind of argument that Bill Clintion had when he said he did not lie about sleeping with Monica Lewinsky? His definition of "Sex" was a little different than most people. So now the state,WDFW, USFS or someone else has changed the definition of "Confermed" wolf packs? I think that is the same thing the state did when certain schools couldn't hit the marks for math and English testing for the WASSL.