White Tails in the Yakima River Canyon?

[Sneaky]

The Northwestern Whitetail is not native to Yakima area and should be kept out at all costs. In fisheries management, the state has finally admitted non-native trout and other species harm native populations. Whitetails are weeds of the west, carry disease, push out mule deer descended from the same gene pool my grandpa hunted years ago. They also breed mule deer does as they are more aggressive, especially if muley buck numbers are low. Fawn rearing success drops when WT are in the area as it causes Mule Deer does to drop fawns in higher country where there is less nutrition and more predation. These weeds of the west would make great target practice for US Army, Airforce, Etc. Good dog food also.

Dog food? Whitetails eat up better than most any other deer.

[CSOUTFITTERS]

So should we exterminate the Elk in the area because they arent native or Bighorn Sheep?   WDF&W better switch gears and look into other means of mule deer predervation.  Soon to follow the Manashtash and Umptanum deer herds will be the Teanaway Unit.  They need to do some control burns or selective logging. 

Something needs to be done to change things but i really dont care if i shoot a 160 class muley or a 160 whitetail.   

[sako223]

The Northwestern Whitetail is not native to Yakima area and should be kept out at all costs. In fisheries management, the state has finally admitted non-native trout and other species harm native populations. Whitetails are weeds of the west, carry disease, push out mule deer descended from the same gene pool my grandpa hunted years ago. They also breed mule deer does as they are more aggressive, especially if muley buck numbers are low. Fawn rearing success drops when WT are in the area as it causes Mule Deer does to drop fawns in higher country where there is less nutrition and more predation. These weeds of the west would make great target practice for US Army, Airforce, Etc. Good dog food also.

Apparently Elk and Whitemen are not either, but we spend a lot staying here.
What has been done to keep the Blacktails out?
How far back do we want to go?
We have bird species first arriving here too now. A neighbor reported to the Audobon society a few years ago. It came to our place and nested so I looked it up in the book.
Pelicans are returning for the first time in 60-80 years and moving into areas they have not been seen before eating a lot of salmon.
Cormorants are moving in.
What about Non native plants and especially the ones WDFW planted.
So I understand your point but find many examples that diminish it.

[banannaclip]

where did the whitetail deer start from?

[colockumelk]

Still don't have the recipe for disaster at YTC

I could tell you from personal experience but it is not politically correct to do so on a public forum.  It would just hijack this thread. 

[pat2bear]

I saw a WT by Wenas Lake last Oct.

I had a buddy of mine say that he saw a WT up by the lake also a year or two ago. I laughed at him and told him he was  . Maybe I owe him an apology.

[Wanttohuntmore]

Heck, I saw a couple whitetails in Moses Coulee about 10 yrs ago.  I didn't believe myself until I read this post. 

[colockumelk]

I see 2-4 everyday!! I have seen a buck with no head gear and 3 does!!  Here's one of the does..

Where was this picture taken.  In the Yakima Canyon??

[CSOUTFITTERS]

A couple years back a friend of mine who lives in south Cle Elum was told by his neighbor that he saw a whitetail in their back yards.  My friend thought he was full of it until the neighbor brought over a pic of a whitetail doe.  A F&W officer said that there were a few in the area off of Hwy 10 and 970, just outside Cle Elum and you would think that they could tell the difference.  Maybe its the same group just moving south.   

[Kowsrule30]

Call me crazy but I saw a 2 point wt and wt doe with twins that looked as though they were part mule deer... They sure didn't have a whitetail.... This was in Southeast Cowichie..... If you look in the regs it says any whitetail is legal in 368 and several other units that aren't known as holding wt.....

[jdb]

Call me crazy but I saw a 2 point wt and wt doe with twins that looked as though they were part mule deer... They sure didn't have a whitetail.... This was in Southeast Cowichie..... If you look in the regs it says any whitetail is legal in 368 and several other units that aren't known as holding wt.....

yea and our game dept. never makes a mistake :dunno:I spend 30 or 40 days a year in that unit and have for almost 30 years and have never seen a whitetail in there

[270Shooter]

Call me crazy but I saw a 2 point wt and wt doe with twins that looked as though they were part mule deer... They sure didn't have a whitetail.... This was in Southeast Cowichie..... If you look in the regs it says any whitetail is legal in 368 and several other units that aren't known as holding wt.....

yea and our game dept. never makes a mistake :dunno:I spend 30 or 40 days a year in that unit and have for almost 30 years and have never seen a whitetail in there

Its like that in all of the 300 units to keep the whitetails out of those units, because these areas are managed for mule deer.

[colockumelk]

I kind of find it hard to believe that if that many different guys have seen that many different white tails in the 300GMU's that NOONE has any pics of these whitetails.  I'd like to see a pic of a white tail in the Yakima canyon.