Wolves in WA

[Ironhead]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/diversty/soc/gray_wolf/index.htm

I put this this in this category, Varmints and Small game because this is what our state needs to do . Same seasons as Coyotes. I have the feeling WDFW will wait untill the Wolves infest our state before they will come up with a comprehensive management plan that the Feds  and people will accept. We have known about the spread of Wolves for 10 years and they are just now starting to admit that they are here. This is also the first state where tree huggers and Wolf fuggers are the majority, that should compound the problem for us.

[actionshooter]

I doubt you will ever see a wolf season in Wa. To many liberals here. Game dept would fold to the pressure. 

[jake]

there will never be a wolf season, as "infested" as the state my get they will more than likely never get over populated, i personally would love to see wolves here, we are talking about a animal that at one time was over most of the country and now they are in how many states?, when we have a problem with wolves attack children and elderly people, by all means open the season. but until then i say we just learn to respect the wildlife that is making a come back after many years. and seriously am i alone in my thoughts?

[WAcoyotehunter]

No you're not alone.  I think we'll see some elk/moose/deer changing thier patterns and getting along fine in lots of areas. 

[WDFW-SUX]

i personally would love to see wolves here am i alone in my thoughts?

YES

[BrushChimp]

Yeah, I'm sure the wolves will get along just fine with elk, moose, and deer... Just like they do in Idaho, ha!

[WAcoyotehunter]

I didn't realize wolves had already eaten all the deer, elk, and moose in ID.... 
It's easy to bash on wolves for eating our game animals, but I can't remember too many threads on here about habitat protection and loss of valuable hunting/wildlife habitat to developers.  Send your letters to the right people, wolves are going to be a fact of life here before too long, but you can help the herds by stopping development in important wildlife areas and closing roads. 
I'll be the unpopular guy here and argue that we can manage wolves alongside our herds.

[JoshT]

There is no such thing as a wolf in the lower 48... just a REALLY big coyote.

[Bofire]

I suggest before anyone gets heated up, do some reading. There is tons of documented info. on the net.

To say that the wolf repopulation efforts in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, have not been extremely successful is not only wrong it is not supported by either side.
The animals have taken off like crazy, and yes many other species have suffered. Last I read the population growth has been exceeding expectations by several hundred percent.
CD..  Here is some reading

http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/annualrpt06/index.htm


http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/annualrpt06/index.htm

It is funny here on the net, I read nothing about bashing wolves in this thread, some political bashing yes, some folks love to be the underdog, some bash in fits of uncontrollable "internet macho" ( thats sissys who are really tough at the keyboard),
some "read in" things and some "read out" things, no threads seem to stay on subject. I did not see anyone say "kill all the wolves", I didn't see anyone say "never touch the wolves"
I am not sure why there was the comment about "predators have been here longer than us" or why that would make any difference in a discussion about wolves??? or anything else. Isn't it some kinda fish or lizard, maybe a snake or rats? that has been here longest? Do they get senority on the vacation schedule?
Carl

[jake]

i agree with WA coyote 100% everyone is quick to bash wolves. i think we are the only two on here that dont think its the end of the world that there are wolves, predators are just a part of the food chain that has been in place WAY longer than we have been around. there are more animals lost by cars every year than anything else so what are we going to do making people stop driving? come on, who knows maybe i just respect wolves, and wildlife in general.

[WDFW-SUX]

PETA called they want there stance on wolves back...............

[Houndhunter]

i agree with WA coyote 100% everyone is quick to bash wolves. i think we are the only two on here that dont think its the end of the world that there are wolves, predators are just a part of the food chain that has been in place WAY longer than we have been around. there are more animals lost by cars every year than anything else so what are we going to do making people stop driving? come on, who knows maybe i just respect wolves, and wildlife in general.

ok you really dont know what your talkin bout, with all the trappin and hunting going on they're alot more animals killed by us (hunters) then by cars. go check the facts, dont just go on sayin stuff that you think might be true

[actionshooter]

The wolves have really done a number on the Elk and deer in Idaho, I would rather not see them here.

 Now here is my view with my tin foil hat on. 


 If we have wolves which are being used as a mangment tool to keep the deer and elk herds in check, why would hunters be needed to manage populations? If you think that sounds crazy those views have been published by antihunting groups.

[ICEMAN]

PETA called they want there stance on wolves back...............

Oh My God!!!  That is damn funny! LMAO!

I will say if for you. ***Please kill all the wolves. *** I do not want to be replaced by wolves. I want to hunt deer and elk, and not compete with them. I will shoot the old elk. Please shoot all wolves you see. Thanks.

[Cougeyes]

I think there needs to be some facts thrown out here and i mean supported facts.  You can not just state your "opinion" and say it is fact without backing it up.  Not to bash on you or pull you out from everyone Houdhunter but you say check the facts about us hunters killing more animals than vehicles, how do you know that is true?  Why dont you present the facts with actual results instead of telling us to check the facts, for all i know you could be wrong.  Hunting season on deer and elk (main wolf prey) isnt year round, but vehicles kill year round. I'm guessing you're right, but in the future before you bash on someone for telling them they dont know what they're talking about I suggest you have supportive facts to back up your "claim".  Same as the cougar argument we had a few months back (no need to re-visit that) but you stated your "facts" without showing me the statistics,so to me it is just your formulated hypothetical opinion,  if you would have shown me the facts and proven me wrong then I would have obviously agreed with you.   

Anyways, my stance on the wolf issue?  I never saw them when they were here and I am not missing them.  I do not think there is any scientific reasoning or science based study that would suggest that they NEED to be here.  The ecosystems are flourishing fine, some even not so great.  Letting a top predator like that come in could severely hurt species populations and entire ecosystems.  People's arguments on this seem to always be they keep species in check.  Dont we already have cougars and bears doing that, oh yeah and Humans.  I personally do not want to see them here, and i do not think they will become a huge issue because we have people that will keep their population in check.