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« on: April 01, 2010, 04:10:18 PM »
Ok guys lets hear who's taking the bow out this year and the plan?? I just picked up a new Double Bull Dark Horse and im really pumped. I have 4 different flocks picked out and one bird rocking 2 beards :). What are you guys using? are you going to film it?  gobbler guillotines? or magnus bullheads? expendables or fixed blades?
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 04:16:13 PM »
I'm taking the bow out again this year for one area that's a no firearm zone.  My buddy has a blind and we're going to build some blinds in various locations.  I'll likely be using my new Z7 with NAP Hellrazors or I may pick up some expandables.  Good luck!




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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2010, 05:18:52 PM »
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens.  I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead?  They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits.  DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point?  Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2010, 05:31:25 PM »
I'm taking the bow this year.  Just using my muzzy broadheads that I have used on big game.  Question for anyone that has shot a turkey with a arrow.  Does it drop them with the right shot placement or is there some tracking involved?  I've killed a few with my shot gun and holy crap these are tough birds.  The reason I ask is because the hill I always find birds on is steep and with just a couple of steps they can fly/glide a long ways.  Maybe I should use a fishing arrow with a string :P
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2010, 05:45:33 PM »
each year i pack my bow and then get ticked off at them and pick up the shotgun. i shoot the bullheads and they shoot very well. seems like they like to stop at about 50 yards from me and i won't shoot past 30 with the bull heads or guillotines.

300 wsm your question should be more refined  :chuckle: with the bull head or gullotine they are doc dead on contact if you hit them neck head like they are made for. with a broadhead depends on placment you get the spine or threw the hips the flop a bit but not much. from what i have seen. if you just shoot them in the vitals they can run/fly off and good luck finding them. thats why i like the doc heads :IBCOOL:
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2010, 05:50:01 PM »
The only thing I hunt with is a recurve, I have a DB Darkhorse, but never seem to want to pack it around when I go after these damn Easterns, takes too much walking to find them, then they move another mile  :bash:
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2010, 06:28:29 PM »
I'm not an expert but if they are hit in the vitals they don't go far!  I have seen quite a few of the bow hunting videos where the archer takes off on a dead run to try and catch the bird.  Also if not hit in the vitals they are prone to fly off as I saw last year with a bird that was hit, fleathers flew and so did the bird.
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 07:19:07 PM »
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens.  I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead?  They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits.  DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point?  Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
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Buddy of mine uses them. H said just shoot your field points and get it dialed that way, the guillotine has ( depending on the weight) upto and 8 inch field of contact. He said much past 25 yards and they go whacky anyway. another pointer he said was to leave the plastic sleeves on. they counter act drag and the blades cut through them when they impact.

 at least that's what he told me.

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 08:36:40 PM »
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens.  I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead?  They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits.  DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point?  Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
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I'd buy an extra pack of broadheads for practice and use some bananas for targets, if the funds are that big of an issue go to safeway.

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 12:48:04 AM »
I have been thinking about trying my bow on a tom this year! If i do i will use the same as i use for deer (standard 4 blade slick trick)I have a hard time beliving that those guillitens hold together good when you hit a turkey in the head/neck. :dunno: Let us know how they work if any of you guys use them.Good luck
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2010, 07:24:58 AM »
I took my first tom with my bow last year out of a double bull blind and I just used my same fixed blade broad heads that I use for deer. The way I figure it if u can put any broadhead right in the spot the critteris dead. I shot mine with a little ultimate steel head, I was very picky with my shot and I had 2 toms walking around the blind for 45 minutes before I got a perfect 14 yard shot. My bird ran about 30 yds and fell over. I also have some expandables that I was gonna try but these birds came in so close to the blind I lowered the netting and switched arrows to my fixed blade. I never tried to shoot the expandables through the netting but according to double bull you can shoot certain ones. Good luck :)

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2010, 09:09:36 AM »
I have been thinking about trying my bow on a tom this year! If i do i will use the same as i use for deer (standard 4 blade slick trick)I have a hard time beliving that those guillitens hold together good when you hit a turkey in the head/neck. :dunno: Let us know how they work if any of you guys use them.Good luck

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2010, 09:59:44 AM »
the bull heads and guillotines held together just fine to lob off a head or neck but you usually have to replace the blades before you shoot them again. we are not talking about strength to shoot threw a elk shoulder here :chuckle: but more like a banana :chuckle:

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 03:57:54 PM »
I'm gonna use the bow again this year. 2009 was my first bow harvest and it was a turkey at 40 yards with my DXT using a G5 85g broadhead. It was not a typical turkey hunt because I wasn't in a blind. I went out with my father who had a shotgun just in case. We couldn't get the gobbler to come all the way in, so my dad told me to give a stock and see how close I could get. Fortunately for me, there was a small dip between me and where the bird was held up. The bird kept gobblin like crazy as I slowly crawled closer. He was with several hens and a jake. I crawled as far as I could, knocked an arrow, and just waited.

As my dad started calling and got the bird moving again. As it passed in front of me I tried ranging it but the finder wouldn't read. It appeared to be 40 yards. As I drew back the gobbler started walking a bit faster watching my every move. I knew I had to act quick. I held my 40 pin at the front of its chest, and slowly squeezed. The next thing I know, I saw the arrow pass all the way through the bird. It dropped where its last step was and flapped its wings twice, and was then motionless. I couldn't believe it! I looked at my dad who was 80 yards behind me who was absolutely amazed at what had just happened. Not only was this my first harvest with a bow but it was a turkey, walking, and I was in the wide open. I am now going to try and take a turkey with my bow each year, but we will see. The season is so close I can hear the gobblers already

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 04:24:55 PM »
Nice Job man, I am considering taking my bow this season, I allready harvested 6 toms the last four years. 

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2010, 06:05:00 PM »
I guess I will throw mine in. MuleySniper talked me into it. I still have nightmares of shooting over tomzilla 2 years ago. I swore off the bow last year because of it.

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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2010, 06:24:56 PM »
Cool story and nice bird Lablover.......I'm still hoping for both of your accomplishments.....first bow kill and turkey with a bow......reading your story makes me even more excited for the season
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 07:01:08 PM »
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens.  I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead?  They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits.  DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point?  Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
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I will definitely take my black ice out for Toms, the only thing I hunt with rifle are yotes. I practiced with the guillotines last year just fine without breaking any blades. You can certainly try with a banana, or a hotdog (which has less resistance and is less prone to breaking a blade.) You HAVE to put the plastic tube sleeves on or they won't fly at all. For my practice set up, I actually used one of my paper coyote targets you can find at most sporting stores. I clipped the top to the end of a branch from a tree and used another clip (the black kind with the metal prongs you squeeze together) attached on the bottom of the paper that had a string tied to it with a stick hanging from it to keep the target in place and not blowing in the breeze. This completes the target part of the set up.

The last, and I think most important part is catching the arrow. I would suggest some old coat, clothing, etc that you don't mind getting messed up, just in case. I hunt with a ghillie suit and simply draped it over the branch a couple of feet behind the target. It worked wonders, caught the arrow, no broken blades and I was ready to hunt (confidently) with the same arrow.

It is true what others said also, they are 4" in diameter so you have 7-8" target area you need to hit. I wouldn't shoot past 25-30 max.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2010, 10:38:23 PM »
Shot this tom at 10yrds out of a double bull blind. He was getting ready to kick butt on my jake decoy.

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2010, 10:54:49 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2010, 10:56:38 PM »
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2010, 09:47:01 PM »
Few of us goin' after Easterns, first time huntin gobblers for all 3 of us, not counting my few haphazard attempts to hunt them during my stay in Pullman.
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2010, 08:12:02 PM »
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens.  I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead?  They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits.  DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point?  Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
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i dont know if you have to turn your poundage way down or what but i shot the guillitines once at a target! ever shot an old arrow without fletches and a tip? bout the only way i can explain it! i would have laughed my a$$ off if i would have trusted that they flew like a feild point and just let it fly at a turkey i may have killed the turkey but only cuz he was laughing so hard as well. i missed the block target at 10 yards!

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2010, 09:46:58 AM »
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens.  I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead?  They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits.  DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point?  Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
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i dont know if you have to turn your poundage way down or what but i shot the guillitines once at a target! ever shot an old arrow without fletches and a tip? bout the only way i can explain it! i would have laughed my a$$ off if i would have trusted that they flew like a feild point and just let it fly at a turkey i may have killed the turkey but only cuz he was laughing so hard as well. i missed the block target at 10 yards!
I had about the same experience with them.  I could have killed one at 10 yards or less, but I never have gotten the chance that close, so my turkey kills are with normal fixed blade heads.  I still like to have a Guillotine with me, but I don't plan on using it first...would be a cool video, though!
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2010, 10:16:34 AM »
not to thredjack but does anyone know what it takes to make those things fly true?  i would use them if they would fly straight!

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2010, 10:48:07 AM »
not to thredjack but does anyone know what it takes to make those things fly true?  i would use them if they would fly straight!

Large 5" feathers or two sets of blazer vanes fletched straight / no twist on a heavy aluminum arrow use the 125grain and practice with 125g field point. We play with them but do not hunt with them. Just standard buzcut two blades for me.

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2010, 03:42:55 PM »
that makes sense. after that one shot i did take with them i would have to do alot of work and even more testing to hunt with them! iam pretty sure its gonna be a great prank to pull on a buddy tho come april 15!

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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2010, 03:45:03 PM »
very large feathers with a big offset really helps but i shoot 4 blazer style vanes and they shoot good for me :twocents:
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Re: Bow Hunters
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2010, 04:50:50 PM »
Guillotine Broadhead Practice
here is a youttube video of one in practice.

here is another one on a turkey
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