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Re: gun
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2010, 05:18:43 PM »
opps hit the spell check and it switched it to that

and the 270 130 grain at 500 yards is same point of impact as a 30-06 with the 150 and still 200 foot pounds less

and bobcat that was in my first point like i said very little diffrence. that was my point
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Re: gun
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2010, 05:34:03 PM »
Ok I just have to do this.

A 150 gr sierra BTSP loaded by federal premium drops 43.7 inches at 500 yards when zeroed at about 1.5 inches high at 100 yards. Also it has 1268 ft-pounds of energy at 500 yards. Here is the link.
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=234

Now a more realistic thing to do is compare different bullet wieghts, 130gr in the 270 and 150gr in the 30-06.

The 270, shooting a 130 gr Barnes X bullet at 3060 fps is 38 inches low at 500 yards when zeroed at 1.5 inches high at 100 yards. Also this load has 1206 ft-pounds of energy at 500 yards. Here is the link for that one.
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=238

Now the 30-06 I used info for the 150 gr nosler ballistic tip (I didn't realize that there wasn't a 150 gr barnes X load, but they both are close in B.C. so it shouldn't really matter) It starts out at 2910 fps and drops 42.6 inches at 500 yards when zeroed 1.5 inches high at 100 yards. Also this load has 1243 ft-pounds of energy at that same distance. Here is that link.
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=265

So, the 270 is better, even if just slightly, you cannot say that the 30-06 is a flatter shooting cartridge because it is not. It has 40 pounds more energy but the deer isn't going to care. And as far as distance goes, I guess what I said at first was wrong, both of these cartridges are capable of killing animals at 500 yards, hell I shot a montana deer at 475 yards with a 140 gr accubond. But most people should be shooting that far.

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Re: gun
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2010, 05:56:07 PM »
i turst my software better then the company sellling the stuff.  :tup:

from my software they are about the same not much diffrence at all. but 200 ft pounds is a little chunk better but enough of
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Re: gun
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2010, 06:19:09 PM »
Ok I just have to do this.

A 150 gr sierra BTSP loaded by federal premium drops 43.7 inches at 500 yards when zeroed at about 1.5 inches high at 100 yards. Also it has 1268 ft-pounds of energy at 500 yards. Here is the link.
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=234

Now a more realistic thing to do is compare different bullet wieghts, 130gr in the 270 and 150gr in the 30-06.

The 270, shooting a 130 gr Barnes X bullet at 3060 fps is 38 inches low at 500 yards when zeroed at 1.5 inches high at 100 yards. Also this load has 1206 ft-pounds of energy at 500 yards. Here is the link for that one.
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=238

Now the 30-06 I used info for the 150 gr nosler ballistic tip (I didn't realize that there wasn't a 150 gr barnes X load, but they both are close in B.C. so it shouldn't really matter) It starts out at 2910 fps and drops 42.6 inches at 500 yards when zeroed 1.5 inches high at 100 yards. Also this load has 1243 ft-pounds of energy at that same distance. Here is that link.
http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=265

So, the 270 is better, even if just slightly, you cannot say that the 30-06 is a flatter shooting cartridge because it is not. It has 40 pounds more energy but the deer isn't going to care. And as far as distance goes, I guess what I said at first was wrong, both of these cartridges are capable of killing animals at 500 yards, hell I shot a montana deer at 475 yards with a 140 gr accubond. But most people should be shooting that far.
jim i gotta go with ya there 270 anyday my choice but browning .308 nice as hell gun lever action espesially
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Re: gun
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2010, 06:23:41 PM »
I love my Winchester Model 70 .30-06.  I love my Remington 700 LTR .308.  I voted for .06, but I recommend both.
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Re: gun
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2010, 06:31:24 PM »
I would go with the .308 every time.  Unless you are shooting 180 gr. and bigger bullets, they are so close to equal it is not worth arguing about.  However, the .308 uses less powder, is lighter, and less recoil.
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2010, 10:20:25 PM »
308 my dads into target shooting and collecting military style guns so I grew up shooting a hk91 and a steyer SSG.Was the natural choice and surplus amno is cheap for plinking.Hasn't let me down yet.Cant see much of an advantage to switching to another caliber.

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Re: gun
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2010, 06:17:32 AM »
308 for a target gun, 30.06 for hunting.  barely any difference, but if i give them specific duties i have better justification for buying them when the wife says no. 8)
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Re: gun
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2010, 11:07:27 AM »
it don't really matter. There the so close in ballistics. Its really a choice of do you want a short action or a long action rifle. I own both. The 308 goes hunting more than the 3006.

 


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