I agree with Bobcat. The last few winters have really done damage to the deer population. I think that and the combo of more and more people hunting in there have forced the deer that are left deeper and deeper into the hills. There are still deer in there and good bucks to be found, you just have to be willing to the extra mile to get away from the roads and people. I know a few spots that hold alot of deer but haven't been in them late season so they might not be in there still. Either way, good luck and hope you guys get a bruiser.