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Crimping your bullet.
« on: August 07, 2010, 06:26:53 AM »
Advantages and disadvantages of crimping your round?

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 06:55:58 AM »
The only rifle round I crimp is the 30-30 winchester, that is to keep the bullet from pushing farther in to the case from recoil while in the magazine. The 41, 357, & 38 revolvers I crimp to keep the bullet from bucking out from recoil, the 45 & 9mm autos I don't crimp and never had a problem.

I like to find the sweet over all length for each rifle so the bullet chandelier is usually in the wrong place, I've never reloaded for the big magnums but the 30-06 on down I've never had a problem without crimping.

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 07:16:02 AM »
If you decide to crimp, I would use a Lee Factory Crimp die for your cartridge, not your die set's seating die.  My experience is they give a much more uniform crimp with a very low chance of the brass bulging.

I used to crimp more than I do now (for bottlenecked, bolt action cartridges).  I pretty much stopped it, as I tend to load my bullets long and the cannelure (if the bullet has one) is above my case mouth.  When I used to crimp--and compare against similar length non-crimp bullets--crimped won out.  But, loading my bullets long now with no crimping seems to beat crimping them at the cannelure.  YMMV

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 07:32:09 AM »
I've been looking at the Lee crimp die. It looks like the bullet sticks out the top of the crimp die, so loading long should not matter, should it? http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1279892294.3543=/html/catalog/dies-crimp.html

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 09:00:46 AM »
The advantage of crimping is the bullet stays in place, very important for revolvers (recoil can dislodge bullets if not crimped) and for tube magazine rifles (spring pressure can dislodge bullets if not crimped).  Not so important for box type magazine weapons.

The disadvantage is that crimping adds one more variable that can affect accuracy. 

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 09:09:41 AM »
I've been looking at the Lee crimp die. It looks like the bullet sticks out the top of the crimp die, so loading long should not matter, should it? http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1279892294.3543=/html/catalog/dies-crimp.html

I use the Lee crimp die for 30-30 loading and I crimp in the cannelure.  Loading long isn’t a problem with lead bullets but I’ve found that crimping a jacketed bullet outside the cannelure can deform the bullet and affects the accuracy.

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 09:43:46 AM »
I only crimp for cartridges in tube mags and very heavy kicking rifles.  My old 358 Norma Mag and my 35 Whelen will both set back bullets in the mag.  I find no difference in accuracy with the 35 Whelen and didn't with the 358.

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2010, 09:57:45 AM »
anying bigger then 357 in a hadgun i crimp and on rifles 45cal and bigger or guns using tube mags like said
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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 12:39:23 PM »
I've been looking at the Lee crimp die. It looks like the bullet sticks out the top of the crimp die, so loading long should not matter, should it?
You're right, but you can't then crimp into the cannelure.

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 03:19:00 PM »
This might be a dumb question but what's cannelure?

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2010, 04:00:07 PM »
its that inset ring found on the shank of some bullets.
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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2010, 05:30:00 PM »
Thanks the bullets I use don't have one.

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2010, 09:20:59 PM »
So how do you know if you have crimped enough or too much? I have Lee factory crimp and I set it up exactly the way instructions said and I couldn't tell if there was a crimp. I don't want to over crimp. Sorry if I jacked the thread

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Re: Crimping your bullet.
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 10:32:50 PM »
So how do you know if you have crimped enough or too much? I have Lee factory crimp and I set it up exactly the way instructions said and I couldn't tell if there was a crimp. I don't want to over crimp. Sorry if I jacked the thread
You can see the crimp, so, if you can't, I doubt you're crimping hard enough.

 


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