Well, I am another happy limb saver customer.. Slipped it on over existing rock hard pad, added about 3/4 more to length of pull which is pretty manageable and still feels ok.. Biggest difference is punch.. Now.. it still shoves ya!.. But now it doesnt bite. Shoulder is not sore, which was already bruised, I'm a believer. Thanks everyone.
Still a little concerned about it not being real durrable as it is a slip on and perhaps I will install a permanent one day.. but for now, I just take it off when done shooting so it keeps is grip ability and does not become stretched and so I can share it with my 7MM Rem mag which is another kicker.