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I also have the Summit backpacker, it is light ( 18 #s ) and folds flat for packing in. I leave it where I am hunting & lock it to a tree. I also cover it with branches. It is hidden so well that sometimes I am right next to it and can't see it / find it right away. Never had anyone mess with it ever. The climber comes in two pieces , one to sit and one for you feet . you use each piece to shimmy up the tree. With a climber to have to have no branches to your height, the other one you spoke of can go on any tree. All have advantages and disadvantages like everything in life. I do like my Summit though. Mike