e caller

[Hillbilly270]

so i borrowed an e caller from someone and want to go out tomorrow.  is there any general rule of thumb people use for how long to call and then pause.  also how long to stay on a stand before moving?  any advice is appreciated.
thanks

[Bofire]

this is a BIG question. but, first time out.
Set it away from you BUT so you can see it.
Play it LOUD, play until you shoot.there is lots of other stuff to know, but this will start ya
Carl

[carpsniperg2]

i like my callers for yotes and bobcats to be about 40-60 yards away depending on the area. you will have to play with how long to call for what ever sounds right. think how long would the animal that is getting killed/ate scream for before it needs to breath if calling for yotes. make sure you always finish with a pup distress or yote death cry etc to try to trigger a response. i have killed a ton of yotes finishing stands with those calls.

[bighorns2bushytails]

you can set the caller as close or as far as youd like(keep in mind remote range), just pay attention to the wind and the fact that they will be coming into the call and not to your location if your still.  using a decoy works great if you have access to one as well.

you can either play the call continuously or play a bit then give it a pause.  i personally like to play it continuously with an ecaller if i want to do calling with pauses i use hand calls cause i gotta gasp for air when im done   i typically will run a stand for a minimum of 30 minutes and a max of an hour.  it depends on the area and depends on the hunt.  some areas i care more about covering land so i have shorter stands other areas i have fewer places to hunt so i do longer stands.  some people do 15 minutes some do an hour + its really just a feel thing for me.

most important thing is the wind and being still.

if you do manage to get a shot off and if its a double or even if its not switch to pup in distress or something similiar and that may break another coyote that you didnt see or stop the other you did on a double.  its a good habbit to get into, its why foxpro developed foxbang.  it may even help on a single if you miss as it will often stop a spooked dog long enough to squeeze off another when he looks back briefly.

all in all just have fun and make sure you thank your buddy for using his ecaller.

--bh2bt

[Hillbilly270]

thanks for the tips guys.  i honestly dont expect to see anything but i'm going to give it a whirl.  i borrowed a prey master 4, but i think i am going to save up for a fox pro fx3 or something.  i dont have a lot of places to call from so i guess about an hour a stand for where i'm going. i really want a bobcat to come in but a bear or coyote wouldn't hurt.  I saw tons of bear sign and some bobcat tracks in there last weekend while looking for elk.

[billythekidrock]

this is a BIG question. but, first time out.
Set it away from you BUT so you can see it.
Play it LOUD, play until you shoot.there is lots of other stuff to know, but this will start ya
Carl

This is great advice for a first timer. Don't get caught up in sequences, raising/lowering/changing sounds. Keep it simple. I would also like to add, keep movement to a minimum and have fun.

[bighorns2bushytails]

if your after bobcat or bear i recomend a minimum of 1 hour stands...

--bh2bt

[sivart33]

not to thread jack, but i am hearing a lot about the fox pros being the choice of calls now over mouth calls, whats up with that?  lazyness, ease of use, just tech is getting that good?

[tlbradford]

ease of use, just tech is getting that good?

those two. and ablity to customize sounds and quality of sounds.

[Bofire]

Its just another bullet in the arsenal. I went out today, had one within 15 feet but could not get a shot. a glimpse now and then in the weeds.
with all the callers there is now days, a guy has to "finesse' them in; lighter leader, better camo, different calls, different color, different spot. I am not going to tell you how I changed my west side technique or how it is different than east side. and way different then Montana, AZ. or Idaho. I hunted and earned it, you have to also.
 
Carl

[ivarhusa]

I recently (last year) purchased a Kanati Tek e-caller, and like the way it works. It will let you select from up to 100 sound files that they provide or you scrounge up (MP3).  I have had the experience of A) taking dead batteries  B) taking no batteries, so be sure you take hand calls along!

I am still trying to figure out what works, for sure.  I am currently inclined to let my e-caller run continuously, where I am much more 'spare' about my hand-calling.  My thinking is that A) quiet intervals could cause loss of interest by the coyote  B) When the coyote focuses his attention on the sound source (not the hunter, presumably), it won't be as likely to figure out that "this is a set up!" When a hand-caller is actively making sounds, the yote is much more likely to pick you out at those times.  When I cease making sounds (hand-calling), I try to stay as still as humanly possible for perhaps the next 20-30 seconds or so.  If one is looking for the sound, don't give them any movement to pick up on.

Here is another tip for e-calling in open country that I recently got from a mentor: Place the e-caller near a prominent object in the area. It should be something that could  have concealed the fracas that the e-caller sounds are suggesting.  A big shrub, a tree, an outbuilding- any of these would suffice. It occurred to my mentor that a sound source coming from the side of an empty hillside could lead yote to respond like "WTF?"  I know this concern doesn't apply to you wet-siders, but my  FFTH terrain is lots of grass, and not even a lot of sage in places.