Tire Help

[high country]

I hope your bridgestones duavis last a lot longer then the revo's I had. mine rode awesome and hooked up like a drag slick on pavement, but lasted about as long as an ice cube in a bbq.

[jeepasaurusrex]

The Toyo M55s have about the same tread design. But the Bridgestones have a bigger shoulder block that helps carry the weight better. All you weight is over the sidewalls and that is where it needs the support. This is where the M55s fell short. The shoulders wore off quicker than the center tread. The Revo is a light truck tire. What vehicle was it on?

M55 for comparison.


Duravis R500HD

[Greg30-06]

They are nowhere near the same tread desighn   the m-55 is a mud terrain tire and the other is an all terrain tire!! no comparason

[high country]

the m55 is a tough tire to beat, but slick when it wears a bit and $$$, plenty tough though.

revo's were on my 2500 cummins 4x4

[high country]

you can't buy mud tires hoping for good tread life. mud tires are for driving in mud and ego boosters. I run swamper on my jeep because it sees no asphalt, I have two sets of skins for my pickup, because I drive the thing on pavement most of the summer and use it to hunt and haul my sleds. my 4 runner that is 50% daily driver 50% off road wears bfg all terrains, because that is the comprimise tire I have found to work best. there is no one tire does it all. it will either wear fast, be loud and hook up in the nasty, or wear like iron and get you stuck in a mud puddle, anything in between is a comprimise and that is where personal expierience and taste come in.

[MikeWalking]

The Toyo M55s have about the same tread design. But the Bridgestones have a bigger shoulder block that helps carry the weight better. All you weight is over the sidewalls and that is where it needs the support. This is where the M55s fell short. The shoulders wore off quicker than the center tread. The Revo is a light truck tire. What vehicle was it on?

Inflation/Air pressure issues??

Don't know if I should bother to chip in, my GC Laredo is a lot lighter than what most of you seem to be driving. But I'm on a set of Toyo Open Country A/T's 23500-24000 miles. Still have 40-50%. I've been crossing one Pass or another during some of the worst weather we have had in the last two to three years and they hold the road like they were on rails. Just wrecked one on a FS road, picked up a rock that would have made a great arrowhead, at least 3 other rock flats including 2 on the same trip, one going up the hill, one coming down.

Not sure what they next set will be...

[Grizzly95]

All you weight is over the sidewalls and that is where it needs the support. This is where the M55s fell short. The shoulders wore off quicker than the center tread.

That is where proper inflation comes in. If driver habits will have all the difference in the world. And anyone buying tractions should never expect them to last as longs a an all terrain. I worked at Schwabs for 10 years and am going back to work for them in the next week or so. When I worked there I always told traction customers to rotate more frequently, I would say 3000miles and cross rotate.
  Another huge factor is that people put a taller, wider tire on and do not consider that that tire needs a wider rim. If you put a wide tire on a narrow rim you need to run a lower air pressure to create a flat wear, otherwise you will wear the centers out. I ran 37" SSR Swampers on a full size chevy on a 10" rim, a little narrow for the tire so I ran 10psi in the tires year round, loaded or not. Never a problem and lasted great for a soft rubber traction.
 Also after a truck has left the dealer the front end will never be in that near perfect shape again, from mile number 1 the front end components begin to wear, shocks, tie rods, ball joints, bearings, bushings, springs, and even brakes. I doubt there is one person on here that inspects their front end every rotation or few thousand miles. I did the stuff for 10 years and didn't do it myself! And don't expect the tire tech to do it when they rotate them either, I tried to on every vehicle but when things are slammed ass busy there are things that get overlooked.
  And then there are diesels........the torque new and chipped diesels is amazing and tire wearing. You don't realize how the rear tires wear under that much torque, they actually kind of smear (lack of better description) on the road when you leave a light or stop sign.

[jeepasaurusrex]

My front end was almost completely rebuilt prior to the M55s going on. New ball joints, TRE, etc. Had a front end alignment done. The tires were always ran at the proper PSI. It is difficult to rotate the tires on a Dually, You cant go front to rear with them. Only side to side. I'm not knocking the M55s, they were good tires. I towed my travel trailer with the Bridgestones yesterday and it did seem to be more stable. The tires are the stock size.

I am sure I will get a longer tread life out of these tires as they are designed for the heavier loads. Being mine is a Diesel Dually, makes even more fun. 

[Special T]

2 Comments Michelin who owns the BFG brand spends 5% of sales on R&D twice as much as the next competitor Goodyear @ 2.5% my brother in law is a farmer in E wa and utilises his tires 50-50 on off road which is unusual for most consumers. He got 17kmiles out of the toyo and 35k out of the BFG all terain.

There is one large tire that wears exceptionally well on and off road, its downfall is it cannot fit many newer vehicles. it is the Goodyear 37x12.5R16.5 Wrangler MT it has a load range E. It is the current tire the military uses for the Hummer. I have several full size friends that road the hell out of them and have lasted A LONG TIME! They may not be as aggressive as a Super Swamper or other dedicated off road tire but i believe for a true mixed use they provide some of the best of both worlds... I know one guy that uses these tires and tows a goose neck with his older dodge and a 4 horse plus tack room trailer around. Bad thing is they have to go an a 16.5 rim which are not common, and they will not fit over the new brake calipers on the 03 and newer Dodges... The tires can usually be bought used very reasonably, however the wheels in aluminum fancy styles are lacking... new steels from anywhere run about $75 ea.   

[whacker1]

Well I finally finished the Tire Dilemma. 
I currently have 265 / 75 / 16 Pro Comp mud terrains in load range E.  Very happy with these, but the best I could find them for was $965 out the door.
Toyo Mt were around $1250
BFG KM2 were around $1150
Cooper STT were $1150

The cheapest MT tire we could find was the Hancook Dyanpro at around $860.

Owner of the Tire shop, and friend, got the idea to look at different tire sizes.  The two we looked at were 255/85/16, which is about 33.1 inches tall by 10 inch wide tire.  No good options.

So then we went to a 235 / 85 / 16, which is 31.7 tall by 9.3 wide

My current tire is 265 / 75 /16, which is 31.6 tall by 10.4 wide

So the net effect on price with the 235 / 85 /16 were significantly less

Maxxis Buchshot was $665 out the door
Goodyear Fierce Attitude was $700.
BFG KM2 were about $900

I ordered the Goodyear and added $40 for siping as they are not pre-siped very well.  I didn't lose much on load capacity as they are still a 10 ply tire.  Aggressive mud terrain, which owner of shop currently has on his Tahoe in the 255 / 85 /16 and says they are quiet.  I should improve gas mileage with Narrower tire, and I didn't give anything up in height.  I am having them put on later this week prior to departing for Montana, and will let you  know how they do.  I am very excited as it took me a lot of research to figure out a way to save money and get close to what I wanted.

[BLUEBULLS]

let me invest into toyo stocks before anyone buys a set cause you will buying a set twice a year and there stock will skyrocket   I got 13 k miles on my toyos before they were gone and that is rotating them every oil change! never again, the worst tire ever made hands down IMO! That is running them on a superduty 

I agree, if you run them on a heavy rig, especially on gravel, they suck!!!
I don't see how anyone that has owned them can argue that.

most people buy them for looks.

[spookgus]

Over the years I have sliced and popped many brands of tires on rocks. Spend two weeks in the far end of the firing center or drive 50 miles of rock road every other day for fuel in Montana and I need all the spares I could bring because of rock breaks, until now. I am on my second set of M55 10ply and have not popped one, except for the time I backed over the top of the snowmobile trailer. I am glad the trailer was empty. The M55 10ply maybe ugly, ride bad and wear bad but they always get me home.

[archery288]

I have a set of the cooper discoverer stt's on my 05 Tacoma.. 35x12.50x20..  I have about 25k on them with more than half the tread left.. Constant rotation and they are wearing very nicely and evenly!  Only thing is, I took a couple chunks of a few knobs on two tires when I ran over my nephews bicycle in the driveway one night with front and rear tire..   But they didn't pop and it mangled his bike so I can't complain!    

[JBar]

   Mom! Big mean Uncle Jon ran over my bike! 

Was thinking of trying out the STT's next go around at least I know they will stand up against a kids bike