Winston Creek Hunting Incident 12-3-2010

[chester]

Good edit tony. no i wasnt refering to the OP in this case but Elkhog. who made it sound like he would blast past someone to get to the elk and if they didnt like it pull his pistol. thats bull.  no i dont threaten. if someone came up on me, they are going to know i dont appreciate it. if they continue to argue the point. who knows? would i pull a weapon? NO. would i want to send them back on their way with a few less teeth. maybe. what really pisses me off is the last line in Elkhogs post. "atleast they didnt get an elk". spoken like a true prick 

[GlennGTR]

And yet another good reason to go to road closures, these kinds of incidents and a larger healthier elk herd is what you would end up with. Yes you would have to work a little harder to get your animals but you would avoid incidents like this one. It would be real easy to tell who was wrong or right if a vehicle was even in the area. Trash dumping, theft of forest products and poaching would be greatly reduced and the sportsman would be the winner in the end.

[Tony 270]

I went back and read his post closely after replying to yours (glanced over his the first time). No, don't agree with some of his statements at all. It is possible they did get permission to go in, just made a dick move of blocking the road. Even if they did go in without permission why drive right up on them? OP doesn't know it for a fact. If he believes it to be the case let them go on with their hunt and report it.

But to say they deserved to get their hunt blown is messed up. I'd be pissed, but wouldn't draw my weapon over it.

Like I said, this thread is stupid  (just my  )

[ashersdad]

First  off  let me start by saying I am a police officer and what the guy did by drawing and pointing his bow at someone is assault 1st which is a class A felony. If I was in that situation when he knocked that arrow and pointed my direction that would of been his last action on this earth. I would have taken that as a imminent threat to my life and used deadly force.  That being said confronting them in the first place was not a smart  thing to do. It was not his place to try and enforce the rules of the land.  But for no reason should a person’s life be threatened. I deal with similar situations a lot and some have ended badly. But the use of deadly force would have been justified. I am not saying he should have done that what he did was a much better solution.  This entire thing could have been avoided. What the guy did by getting in a pissing match with them was not what should of happened but the other party involved commented a class A felony and is lucky to be alive.

[Tony 270]

Well stated.

Welcome to the site. And not all of our threads are like this one 

[ashersdad]

well thank you this is prob not the best thead to make my frist post on but such as life... thanks for the welcome

[chester]

Very good first post. while your on here try and hit up the introductions thread. welcome 

[bak2huntn]

This is stupid , one step closer to quiting this site ,you are out side ,you are hunting , enjoy and share ! it's this stupidsht is why I don't hunt this state,.

[markts]

With the cost of tires and dental work these days, I dont block roads and never have. Some *censored* points a weapon at me and they will be doin the 41mag potty dance

[BallisticsNut]

I think its time to close this thread.  

 

[sportsman002001]

I have gone through and read all the replies here. First I think this topic has gone way off track to the issue of just blocking roads and what one person would do to the other. Others went off on a tangent about litter being dumped and that was not even in my original post. Not once did it come up. Also I made the comment how people do not follow the rules of the tree farm not once did I see a reply about that other than the one made by the Guardian.

There have been some good input here and some not so good. Yes, I know two wrongs don't make a right. Yes dick move on my part of driving around but after walking in all week and seeing people driving around and not obeying the signs it gets old. With that said, had I drove in and not seen their vehicle and seen two guys walking I would have not went any futher knowing that they had probably walked all day to be in there for the evening hunt. And that has happend to myself before I figured out weyco typically would allow people in around that last hour on Fridays. Would be walking in late for an evening hunt and have someone drive in but they would turn around.

Some people here said, "what happend to just getting out and duking it out." Well I don't believe fighting is the answer and that certainly would not have solved anything. I went into the situation knowing some words would be exchanged but a weapon the last thing I thought. And again fighting would not be the answer or nothing would be solved. Some brought up 4 flat tires to their truck. Vandalism would not have been the answer either. There are a few more but I think enough has been said here.

Some wonder why I have not committed for awhile. The thread got pretty disappointing towards the end and I was just wainting here to put up my final say and move on. I am sure I will here from the Sherriffs department but that is between us. I have had alot of time to think about this and I am sure the other 2 parties have had time to think about it too. I know this could of been handled differently but it is what it is. It is the past and we can all move on.

Thank you for all you gave their  and I do enjoy this site because you can get so many different views on stuff.  Good hunting to all and we have to wait till next year.



 

[guardian]

Sportsman, thanks for sharing your story. There were some interesting points made all in all hope we all learned a little something here. Time to move on .Spring bear season here we come. By the way ELKHOG keep up the good work.

[LittleJohn]

Well said Sportsman!!! 

[blackmouther]

If you want privacy load your backpack and start hiking.  Anytime your hunting and stalking from the road it's easy to get into a confrontation with someone elso who thinks they own the land their hunting.  Whether or not the guys had recieved permission to inhabit the road or not is up to the game wardens, police and land patrolmen, not that pointing a bow with intent to use is acceptable behavior but this is only one side of the story.   Stuff like this is why we loose access to some of our prime area's.  My 

[DTOM]

Every thing turned out well. I guess going around a truck or who is hunting here or there and when is one debate but for any person who pulls a weapon, beware who you do that to some of us have been in a giant sand box hunting or maybe just don't take that chance and that split second you didn't release that arrow or pull that trigger maybe your last. Fore some only know reaction not weather your bluffing or not.