Letter to the Editor: One less bull in the Tieton Dr. herd...

[boneaddict]

They're about to get keys.  Thread on here about it.

[400out]

They're about to get keys.  Thread on here about it.

[hirshey]

They're about to get keys.  Thread on here about it.

All to buy some votes. What a crock.

[jdb]

I heard they already have keys to the oak creek gate

[Tony]

Yes Matsons property is posted. So hopefully the guys that were caught shooting the bull on his land get a little more then a $500 fine.

Maybe i missed something but i thought the bull that was shot was down in the meadow were they feed during the winter? Matsons property ends right before the meadow but a couple of years ago once they started feeding that posted no trespassing signs by the WDFW.

[viper55]

The thing about this whole thread is it happens everywhere. The only way to completely fix the problem is to ratify the 155 year old treaty. It is way outdated and needs to be done at a national level. I believe tribes should pay for licenses and tags like everyone else. Great Job for bringing this to light. I seen this in Oregon were state patrol could do nothing iwth tribe members. They had to call in tribal Police. As far as the Master Hunter Program, It is just another gentlemens hunting club.

[Yak-NDN]

Still wanting to see pics of Tribal Members in a fenced feeding station killing elk with hay in their mouth?  If it is a feeding station they should get a bigger fine from the state because it is a no shooting zone. But I do not know of any elk killed in oak cr station behind the fence with everyone watching. Not saying their is not a problem just saying some people are full of SHI*.

[Dan-o]

My hat is off to the several of you that took the initiative to try to bring this to the light.

My hat is also off to Coastal Native, who seems to take a fair amount of crap, but always comes back with some pretty provocative thoughts.....   (and even admitted when he was wrong.   I thought real men never did that on the internet)   

Sure is a mess, and I'd love to see it get cleaned up.

[Coastal_native]

My hat is also off to Coastal Native, who seems to take a fair amount of crap, but always comes back with some pretty provocative thoughts.....   (and even admitted when he was wrong.   I thought real men never did that on the internet)    

Well...wrong is a pretty harsh word  That was easy to admit...those guys were pretty indefensible in their actions, as are all poachers.  I think this actually worked out how it is suppose to, even though some are unhappy with the low monetary fine.  This is not specific to the Yakama's, but if you shed light to a problem that puts a government (like a tribal government) in a negative public light, they will most likely take action to protect their public image.  The more you put the government into a REACTIVE position...the more likely they will be to take a PROACTIVE approach.  Like I said in a previous post, tribes in general take pride in being able to self regulate themselves.  If anyone is unfamiliar with the self determination act, I would suggest looking into it.  Tribes strongly believe that they can take care of themselves and control their own future...without the constant oversight of big brother.  Help show them areas that need improvement without using hatred as your MO...and you will probably have some success.  I would even suggest sending letters or calling in to tribal officials...I would recommend using some diplomacy, though.  If anyone wants a lesson on diplomacy just read some of FC's posts...and do the opposite that was a joke, but he does have a way with words that will leave you like this  (I just broke my vow to never use a red angry face emoticon).

[Practical Approach]

Good posts coastal native, I wish there were more like you on this site.  You are a true asset to the tribal community.

[buckmaster_wa]

Still wanting to see pics of Tribal Members in a fenced feeding station killing elk with hay in their mouth?  If it is a feeding station they should get a bigger fine from the state because it is a no shooting zone. But I do not know of any elk killed in oak Creek station behind the fence with everyone watching. Not saying their is not a problem just saying some people are full of SHI*.

YakNDN, I must admit that I have not heard of anyone shooting elk through the fence at the oak creek feeding station. I dont know why they said that on the news. I even told the guy when he interviewed me that the incident did not take place at this feeding station and he replied that he knew that it was at the Clover springs feeding station he just did not want to go that far to meet me. Regardless they still shot elk our of a feeding station and its wrong. The only difference between the two feeding stations is one has a fence and the other does not.

[huntergreg]

Last year I was talking to a man who was volunteering at oak creek and said that he saw a few guys kill elk right there where they feed them. The guys who shot the elk were trying to get people that were viewing the elk to help them put it in there truck. 

[Yak-NDN]

Ya I think everyone has talked to that guy. Is it not just amazing that everyone their that day had forgot their cameras and phones. (What a joke)What was his name we should get a statement from him?

[b23]

"Tribes strongly believe that they can take care of themselves and control their own future..."   As long as they keep getting that U.S.A Government money.  Lets see how well they can "take care of themselves and control their own future" if the tribes STOP getting money from the United States of America....

[Yak-NDN]

OK OK lets do it. Start it off B23