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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 12:12:24 PM »
Most likely Whitetail, but have seen blacktail with similar configuration  :dunno:
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 12:30:45 PM »
I say blacktail with an ounce or two of muley in him. :chuckle: He's got the whitetail look, but I don't think its a whitetail. I don't think the eyeguards look like a whitetail, not just the size, because I've seen whiteys with short ones, but the way they come off of the beam. Just my  :twocents: Cool buck for sure!

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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 12:54:46 PM »
definetly benchleg.

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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 01:03:34 PM »
Columbia Coose.
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2011, 01:39:14 PM »
milie whitey mix  :dunno:
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2011, 02:03:28 PM »
I'd say Whitetail or Columbian Whitetail

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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2011, 02:28:35 PM »
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2011, 02:32:24 PM »
Some of you got it right. its a benchleg shot in the cowiche GMU. Wonder how many of these sheds that people say are whities around here are actually benchleg bucks. i have a few that look like whitey horns but are benchers.

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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2011, 07:54:53 PM »
Id have to say benchleg.
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2011, 09:16:25 PM »
i say black tail. ive seen several blackys that look like that .plus the horns are dark coller.

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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2011, 09:24:29 PM »
brows and the shape of the antler suggests blackie to me...  not 100%

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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2011, 09:51:49 PM »
I'd honestly have guessed a regressor whitetail if it was antlers only.

Since we get to see the skull, the deep anteorbital depression (pit immediately in front of the eye socket) and broad preorbital foramen (hole for the preorbital, a.k.a. lacrimal gland - gland in front of the eye) identify it as Odocoileus hemionus (mule/black-tailed deer), not Odocoileus virginianus (white-tailed deer).  If the lower jaw was available, and it was a younger deer (so the teeth aren't worn to nubs), it would have enamel surfaces on the incisors more than 3x longer than the width.  Whitetail incisor enamel lengths are less than 2x the width, and also the enamel flares more from the base to the tip on whitetails.  

I learned the difference when I was working on deer studies in areas with lots of both species (Black Hills and eastern Wyoming riparian).  Also used to get asked by sportsmen and ranchers who wanted to know what species the 3-point skull they'd found was.
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2011, 08:22:56 AM »
I'd honestly have guessed a regressor whitetail if it was antlers only.

Since we get to see the skull, the deep anteorbital depression (pit immediately in front of the eye socket) and broad preorbital foramen (hole for the preorbital, a.k.a. lacrimal gland - gland in front of the eye) identify it as Odocoileus hemionus (mule/black-tailed deer), not Odocoileus virginianus (white-tailed deer).  If the lower jaw was available, and it was a younger deer (so the teeth aren't worn to nubs), it would have enamel surfaces on the incisors more than 3x longer than the width.  Whitetail incisor enamel lengths are less than 2x the width, and also the enamel flares more from the base to the tip on whitetails. 

I learned the difference when I was working on deer studies in areas with lots of both species (Black Hills and eastern Wyoming riparian).  Also used to get asked by sportsmen and ranchers who wanted to know what species the 3-point skull they'd found was.
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Re: What species deer? (pics included
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2011, 10:12:59 AM »
I'd honestly have guessed a regressor whitetail if it was antlers only.

Since we get to see the skull, the deep anteorbital depression (pit immediately in front of the eye socket) and broad preorbital foramen (hole for the preorbital, a.k.a. lacrimal gland - gland in front of the eye) identify it as Odocoileus hemionus (mule/black-tailed deer), not Odocoileus virginianus (white-tailed deer).  If the lower jaw was available, and it was a younger deer (so the teeth aren't worn to nubs), it would have enamel surfaces on the incisors more than 3x longer than the width.  Whitetail incisor enamel lengths are less than 2x the width, and also the enamel flares more from the base to the tip on whitetails. 

I learned the difference when I was working on deer studies in areas with lots of both species (Black Hills and eastern Wyoming riparian).  Also used to get asked by sportsmen and ranchers who wanted to know what species the 3-point skull they'd found was.
NERD! :chuckle:
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As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

 


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