Heres more on the Shipsey Bull. This bull was killed on the San Carlos in 1997. The gross score is 502 6/8 and netted 487 and is a non-typical 9x9.I have a book calledThe golden age of elk hunting by John Caid that I bought at the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation show in Reno about 5 years ago. It has hundreds of pictures of monster bulls and a story for most of them. Pretty cool read.