Picture Proof - Wolves chasing Elk

[jackelope]

Not to ask a dumbas question, but what is this proof of?
We don't know where the pics were taken...right?
We all know wolves chase, kill and eat elk.
I don't get it. Is the location of the pics the reasoning behind the picture proof?
Not trying to be a wiseass...I'm just cornfused.

[Alan K]

Those are some amazing picture sequences. . . Think she made it? 

[mulehunter]

Not to ask a dumbas question, but what is this proof of?
We don't know where the pics were taken...right?
We all know wolves chase, kill and eat elk.
I don't get it. Is the location of the pics the reasoning behind the picture proof?
Not trying to be a wiseass...I'm just cornfused.

It makes me little wondering why he choose this spot to set up......  maybe he found few Elk jump over cliff end up died.  Maybe he set up there to see if pack wolves has good educated how to push this way to end..        this pic of background look like Idaho for sure.  Its very interested how it got this spot somehow.

Mulehunter.

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

I was wondering the same thing, are these real?
Regardless, this happens as we all know. If I see one
I'm going to throw a 180gr rock at the wolf very very hard ; )
I always carry 5 in my pocket!

[jackmaster]

wolfmoderate guy, so you think its ok for a pack of hounds that are treeing on a cougar to be wiped out by a pack of wolves that has been introduced by man? ok so take away the only method of controlling the cougar population which is hound hunting, and then add a crap load of wolves to the mix and i am sure the deer and elk population will do just fine, i know you didnt say squat about taking away hound hunting but that is what has happened here in washington. wolves went by the wayside years and years ago because deer and elk populations couldnt handle the pressure of wolves , cougars, and a couple of other predators always hunting them, thats why we decimated them years ago, well wolves belong in canada and alaska because nature has balanced them out in those areas, sure eventually maybe nature would balance them out in the lower 48, but the damage they would cause before we get there would be insane, and the number one reason we wiped them out years ago is because dairy farmers and beef farmers would end up paying the ultimate price , wolves love to eat poor ole farmers joes cows

[jackmaster]

jackmaster watch what you say or you will be investigated next ...... all my I love this site !!! hahahaha

thanks for the heads up bowhunter but i look at it this way, if people can stand at soldiers funerals and say they are happy that they got killed in combat  then it should be ok if i say that wolves are gonna have accidents

[BIGINNER]

wolfmoderate guy, so you think its ok for a pack of hounds that are treeing on a cougar to be wiped out by a pack of wolves that has been introduced by man? ok so take away the only method of controlling the cougar population which is hound hunting, and then add a crap load of wolves to the mix and i am sure the deer and elk population will do just fine, i know you didnt say squat about taking away hound hunting but that is what has happened here in washington. wolves went by the wayside years and years ago because deer and elk populations couldnt handle the pressure of wolves , cougars, and a couple of other predators always hunting them, thats why we decimated them years ago, well wolves belong in canada and alaska because nature has balanced them out in those areas, sure eventually maybe nature would balance them out in the lower 48, but the damage they would cause before we get there would be insane, and the number one reason we wiped them out years ago is because dairy farmers and beef farmers would end up paying the ultimate price , wolves love to eat poor ole farmers joes cows

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT IT WOULD BALANCE OUT IN THE LOWER 48, THE WAY NATURE BALANCES OUT IS: PREDITORS KILL THE PREY, AND ONCE THERE IS A LITTLE PREY LEFT, THE PREIDITORS WILL START TO THIN OUT UNTILL THE PREY RECOVERS, THEN THE REPDITORS HAVE MORE FOOD,....ECT.. THATS THE CYCLE.  BUT.... ONCE YOU COUNT IN THE HUMAN IMPACT,..... THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.... 

THE WOVES WILL KILL OFF THE PREY.(DEER AND ELK) AND ONCE THERE IS LITTLE OR NO DEER AND ELK LEFT,.. THE WOLVES WON'T START TO DIE OF... BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIVESTOCK TO TURN TO.  SO THE CYCLE IS INTERUPTED, AND THE PREY WONT BE ABLE TO RECOVER...  SO... HUMANS INTURUPTED THE CYCLE.. (SURPRIZE!!!)  THATS WHY WE NEED TO KEEP THE BALANCE...NATURE CAN'T TAKE ITS COURSE  IN THIS SITUATION... SO WE HAVE TO.   

[BOWHUNTER45]

Jackmaster I was only messing with ya ...   

[Killmore]

I  wonder what people are going to say when they go to see the elk at oak creek and any of the feed station's for that matter and  witness a daily killing of the elk there by the wolfs..

[jackmaster]

I  wonder what people are going to say when they go to see the elk at oak creek and any of the feed station's for that matter and  witness a daily killing of the elk there by the wolfs..

oh boy could you imagine that, mama tree hugger and little tree huger see a wolf come outta nowhere and savagely kill a cute little calf elk right in front of them :yike:oh damn, we shouldnt have wolves in this state or any other of the lower 48 states because wolves dont belong down here, they have thrived up north, so leave it alone, if mama nature wanted wolves here in the lower 48 she would have made it happen, but oh no, man has to put his dick beaters into the mix  , my grandpa said, "if it isnt broke boy, dont fix it"

[Alan K]

Man I keep coming back to these pictures! Did you hear if the kid found that cow over the edge there to the right?

[Killmore]

I  wonder what people are going to say when they go to see the elk at oak creek and any of the feed station's for that matter and  witness a daily killing of the elk there by the wolfs..

oh boy could you imagine that, mama tree hugger and little tree huger see a wolf come outta nowhere and savagely kill a cute little calf elk right in front of them :yike:oh damn, we shouldnt have wolves in this state or any other of the lower 48 states because wolves dont belong down here, they have thrived up north, so leave it alone, if mama nature wanted wolves here in the lower 48 she would have made it happen, but oh no, man has to put his dick beaters into the mix  , my grandpa said, "if it isnt broke boy, dont fix it"

And then we can ducttape their faces to the elk fence and force momma and little tree hugger to watch.. They created the mess.. and your grampa was right...

[Little Dave]

HUH ....The only people hating this is the sportsmen and cattle rangers of course when they kill live stock ... For everyone else this is nature taking its course ... but when thet wipe out the elk then who will be to blame ??   

If this is letting nature take its course, and that is the right thing to do... then we should not be in the business of putting out forest fires or immunizing against disease.

Like ring-around-the-rosies (a cute little children's rhyme about the plague), we have other affectionate stories about other dreaded problems of old like the wolf eating children, the wolf destroying the pig's home, even crying wolf...  For a reason.  Wolves will cause problems.  The new passionate concept of the friendly and helpful wolf is more a symptom of how out of touch many have become with their neighbors, with history, and despite good intentions, with nature.

[jackmaster]

HUH ....The only people hating this is the sportsmen and cattle rangers of course when they kill live stock ... For everyone else this is nature taking its course ... but when thet wipe out the elk then who will be to blame ??   

If this is letting nature take its course, and that is the right thing to do... then we should not be in the business of putting out forest fires or immunizing against disease.

Like ring-around-the-rosies (a cute little children's rhyme about the plague), we have other affectionate stories about other dreaded problems of old like the wolf eating children, the wolf destroying the pig's home, even crying wolf...  For a reason.  Wolves will cause problems.  The new passionate concept of the friendly and helpful wolf is more a symptom of how out of touch many have become with their neighbors, with history, and despite good intentions, with nature.

well said sir

[WAcoyotehunter]

wolfmoderate guy, so you think its ok for a pack of hounds that are treeing on a cougar to be wiped out by a pack of wolves that has been introduced by man? ok so take away the only method of controlling the cougar population which is hound hunting, and then add a crap load of wolves to the mix and i am sure the deer and elk population will do just fine, i know you didnt say squat about taking away hound hunting but that is what has happened here in washington. wolves went by the wayside years and years ago because deer and elk populations couldnt handle the pressure of wolves , cougars, and a couple of other predators always hunting them, thats why we decimated them years ago, well wolves belong in canada and alaska because nature has balanced them out in those areas, sure eventually maybe nature would balance them out in the lower 48, but the damage they would cause before we get there would be insane, and the number one reason we wiped them out years ago is because dairy farmers and beef farmers would end up paying the ultimate price , wolves love to eat poor ole farmers joes cows

I think wolf moderate stepped in a pile here, but I have to agree with him that we should not be surprised to see wolves (not wolf's!!) chasing or killing elk.  We all know that happens.  I'm biased about the hound hunting/wolf issue because I run hounds and love my dogs.  I would be devastated if they were killed by wolves, or bears, or lions...all of which can happen anytime you loose the dogs.  It's part of the deal.
 
I disagree that wolves should be decimated because a pile of you guys 'hate' them, or because lots of ranchers 'hate' them.  There is enough space ( I call it space, because it's not really habitat...) in our state to support a managed population of wolves.  There is also enough space in our state that could be high quality habitat and support 10X the number of prey animals and predators.  Rather than worry about whether or not wolves are going to end hunting or ranching, we should be worrying about ways to fix our decimated habitat to support wolves, elk, deer, hunters... 
 
We should be finding ways to support wild places and protect quality habitat.