Boycott Cabela's, they are in bed with the tribes in Tulalip !!!!

[singleshot12]

Looking at things a little more optimistically then maybe the Tulalips will use a large portion of their profits on more fish for us to catch and better big game management for more critters to hunt..

                                                                 

[rtspring]

If I were to BOYCOTT everything I didn't agree with I wouldn't have a damn thing.....  I understand your thought process but it is what it is.......

its not the indians fault, Blame OBAMA... ha ha ha

[Special T]

Cabellas moving onto tribal land is no different than walmart or homedepot. it is a LAND and ZONING issue. State regulations are so convoluted that it is hard to put in any large establishment. Cabellas is going to tribal land because it is an expedited process. They can build in months instead of years.  Hell, after the Walmart went in for a few years the community finally settled down and allowed one to be built in Smokey Point, where they originally wanted to. I'm guessing the draw of tax $ and the impact was already there so they finally ok'ed the deal.
You will find MANY business moving tward tribal locations and partnerships. Does this make the business people or tribes evil? The reality is there are limited choices for business in this state. We can either move, go out of business, or think out of the box.... And that is what is happening with the tribal land... Much of the red tape causes this and you cannot point to any one thing.

I see much misplaced frustration regarding Native issues. Many are the symptoms of the problem not the cause... OUR crappy politicians are one cause, and i believe the other is the ability of the tribes to give political donations to state and local leaders... I believe that is a conflict of interest and should be addressed. I had a conversation with a local politician that explained how much money was spread around by tribes on the local scene... If you don't like DNR keys or baiting on public ground for tribal members only, you should find out how and why this is happening...

As Usually CN gives good sound input and we should all feel lucky to articulate insight on this issue.

[Wenatcheejay]

Cabellas moving onto tribal land is no different than walmart or homedepot. it is a LAND and ZONING issue. State regulations are so convoluted that it is hard to put in any large establishment. Cabellas is going to tribal land because it is an expedited process. They can build in months instead of years.  Hell, after the Walmart went in for a few years the community finally settled down and allowed one to be built in Smokey Point, where they originally wanted to. I'm guessing the draw of tax $ and the impact was already there so they finally ok'ed the deal.
You will find MANY business moving tward tribal locations and partnerships. Does this make the business people or tribes evil? The reality is there are limited choices for business in this state. We can either move, go out of business, or think out of the box.... And that is what is happening with the tribal land... Much of the red tape causes this and you cannot point to any one thing.

I see much misplaced frustration regarding Native issues. Many are the symptoms of the problem not the cause... OUR crappy politicians are one cause, and i believe the other is the ability of the tribes to give political donations to state and local leaders... I believe that is a conflict of interest and should be addressed. I had a conversation with a local politician that explained how much money was spread around by tribes on the local scene... If you don't like DNR keys or baiting on public ground for tribal members only, you should find out how and why this is happening...

As Usually CN gives good sound input and we should all feel lucky to articulate insight on this issue.

At this point and junction I would rather give my hunting and fishing revenue to the Tribes. I have more in common with them and their outlook than the Government that supposedly serves me. I hope not one tax dollar goes to Gregoire.

[sled]

Cabellas moving onto tribal land is no different than walmart or homedepot. it is a LAND and ZONING issue. State regulations are so convoluted that it is hard to put in any large establishment. Cabellas is going to tribal land because it is an expedited process. They can build in months instead of years.  Hell, after the Walmart went in for a few years the community finally settled down and allowed one to be built in Smokey Point, where they originally wanted to. I'm guessing the draw of tax $ and the impact was already there so they finally ok'ed the deal.
You will find MANY business moving tward tribal locations and partnerships. Does this make the business people or tribes evil? The reality is there are limited choices for business in this state. We can either move, go out of business, or think out of the box.... And that is what is happening with the tribal land... Much of the red tape causes this and you cannot point to any one thing.

I see much misplaced frustration regarding Native issues. Many are the symptoms of the problem not the cause... OUR crappy politicians are one cause, and i believe the other is the ability of the tribes to give political donations to state and local leaders... I believe that is a conflict of interest and should be addressed. I had a conversation with a local politician that explained how much money was spread around by tribes on the local scene... If you don't like DNR keys or baiting on public ground for tribal members only, you should find out how and why this is happening...

As Usually CN gives good sound input and we should all feel lucky to articulate insight on this issue.

At this point and junction I would rather give my hunting and fishing revenue to the Tribes. I have more in common with them and their outlook than the Government that supposedly serves me. I hope not one tax dollar goes to Gregoire.

  The lovely gregoire wont be here next year

[TurkeyHntr]

At least the Indians got the casino business figured out - I went to go trade in my chips the other day, and they gave me three bushels of corn and a beaver pelt....

[Little Dave]

The lovely gregoire wont be here next year

Well, her term goes right through the end of 2012 and into the first week of 2013.  It's a technicality though.  Hopefully the next governor is able to clean up after her.

[PlateauNDN]

At least the Indians got the casino business figured out - I went to go trade in my chips the other day, and they gave me three bushels of corn and a beaver pelt....

Nice!  And which casino was that?  The last "Indian" Resort and Casino I was at was more luxurious and cheaper to stay at then the supposedly fancy luxury JW Marriot of Indianapolis or some of the other upscale hotels I've been to over the last year.  I travel quite a bit for work and by experience I can tell you now the "Indian" Resorts and Casinos are by far a better experience then the upscale hotels such as the JW, Hyatt, Westin, Hilton and Renaissance I've stayed at and come at a cheaper rate.  So I'm sorry your experience was not what you expected but mine have been and will continue to be.

[pianoman9701]

At least the Indians got the casino business figured out - I went to go trade in my chips the other day, and they gave me three bushels of corn and a beaver pelt....

Nice!  And which casino was that?  The last "Indian" Resort and Casino I was at was more luxurious and cheaper to stay at then the supposedly fancy luxury JW Marriot of Indianapolis or some of the other upscale hotels I've been to over the last year.  I travel quite a bit for work and by experience I can tell you now the "Indian" Resorts and Casinos are by far a better experience then the upscale hotels such as the JW, Hyatt, Westin, Hilton and Renaissance I've stayed at and come at a cheaper rate.  So I'm sorry your experience was not what you expected but mine have been and will continue to be.

I'm pretty sure he was attempting humor, Plateau.

[Special T]

Plateau, Your example is perfect example of the difference between the tribal form of government and the states. 2 competing products very similar in many ways. The tribal hotel provides a better experince fot the same or less money. I would bet my paycheck that it is becasue of less red tape that the tribe has to go through compared to the sate and municipalities anywhere off the Rez.
A little while back I ALMOST rented a hotel room in seattle after a ball game... was thinking about riding the train down, waching a game and  spending the night. The price seem high but tollerable, untill i asked about all the taxes that wern't included... We decided to go with some people on a chartered bus instead...
I don't particually care for casinos, and i don't smoke... I do however like the occasional cigar, and apparently so do many other people. We GAVE away our right to smoke in Private bars and resturants... and Guess who didn't?
I do not think the tribes are a clean as the wind driven snow. They gave plenty of money to influence the state to adopt laws banning smoking in public places. I think it is wrong, should not be allowed, and should be looked upon the same way when forgin countries give donations to politicains in this country... All of the Hate i hear for indians are symptoms or this core problem... But in order to change it we have to fire politicains in mass and good people that are not career politicains need to leave thier lives to change our great state...

[windygorge]

havn't you guys figured it out yet.  its never in the best interest of the majority.  its always in the best interest of the minority and those who can afford to line the pockets of the state representatives.  the tribes are wealthy and are doing just that.