Teanaway Wolf Pack

[BOWHUNTER45]

  I posted this twice ...Owell I need practice !!

[HighCountryHunter88]

Speaking of tribal laws, I was surprised to see that the Colvilles have it in regs that they can't shoot them.   I doubt they enforce it, but still......

talked to one of my buds from up there, he said they are protected because some of the rule makers wants them there. they've been spotted a couple times but if they get set up they wont last long... i know that for a fact.

[danderson]

The wdfw has been hyjacked by enviromental moles, I think the lookout pack was transplanted into the teanaway valley, along the way they have decieved the public, they say that we have 4 confirmed wolf packs, does anyone actually believe that, I think that there master plan is to wipe out deer and elk populations, and sell wildlife viewing permits, only problem is there wont be any wildlife left..... but dogs.

[scudmaster]

And to add insult to the injury, our hunting licenses pay for the wolves to boot...ain't that a B****!

[Dave Workman]

WA hunters questioning origins of Teanaway wolves


   This week’s announcement of a new wolf pack in the Teanaway region of Washington’s central Cascades has left the state’s hunting community suspicious, about the timing and especially about the origin of these predators and how they were discovered.

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/wa-hunters-questioning-origins-of-teanaway-wolves

[Curly]

Vote in a poll here:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,79201.0.html

[gasman]

Good write up right there 

[Machias]

Nice write up Dave.

[Cougeyes]

I dont think its out of the ordinary for them to be in the Teanaway.  It is an area that was modelded as supporting habitat in the state for wolves.  I think there are ample corridors for them to get there from Canada.  How did the wolves get in the Teanaway?.....same way the moose have.  These wolves were discovered because of observant people, constant reports and images from trail cameras.  I actually heard the first images came from a local landowner and which then got wildlife volunteer groups out there actively looking and placing cameras etc...   

[huntindork]

After doing some talking with some sources this pack is located pretty low in the teanaway.  Just knowing what i know, i definately think the liberty sighting is the same pack for sure. 

In regards to the indians, can they shoot them legally? Well without getting prosecuted like the rest of us anyhow? Maybe we can pay a couple of them to do some high velocity impact studies?

[colockumelk]

@Coug IMHO I find it unlikely that a breeding pair would wander that far from where other wolves are.  Do wolves travel large distances yes.  But those are loner males looking for a female.  Breeding pairs are not gonna travel that far.  When populations expand outward they are like an oil spill.  They tend to expand outward.  They don't jump large distances.  Why would a breeding pair need to travel all the way from the Methow to here?  I am with Bone and many others on this one.  Those wolves got there in the back of a truck. 

[colockumelk]

I have a question that maybe some of the more legally minded people can answer.  Lets say Jim and Bob are up in the Teannaway and shoot a wolf.  Lets say that the 1 and a million chance of getting caught doing this actually happens and they get caught and go to court.  Wouldn't the state have to prove that those wolves were truly wild and were not planted by a conservation organization??  Also why is the state not investigating this organization?  After all while it is not illegal to own a wolf, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to transport one with the intent to release one.  Also obviously its illegal to release a pair.  If your defense attorney proved that they were released then would it still be illegal?  Since these were not legally sanctioned released animals and basically are just someones "pets" that got released?

I think if someone smoked these wolves 1.) Its highly doubtfull that they would get caught if they shot it and immediately walked and kept their mouth shut.  But 2.) And here's the most important part.....  If they did get caught I don't think that the state could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that those wolves were not planted by a private organization illegally.  I think that they guy or gal would walk away free.  Just my 

[PlateauNDN]

After doing some talking with some sources this pack is located pretty low in the teanaway.  Just knowing what i know, i definately think the liberty sighting is the same pack for sure. 

In regards to the indians, can they shoot them legally? Well without getting prosecuted like the rest of us anyhow? Maybe we can pay a couple of them to do some high velocity impact studies?

They are still protected animals under Federal Jurisdiction and since Tribes are bound under Federal Law then we can't shoot them.  Just like the sea lions down on the Columbia.  I don't like wolves one bit and I've stated on here before I had a run in with them one I was younger when they were stalking I and my family while gathering roots.  And I seen one just east of Mt. Adams standing near the roadway last summer and by the time I pulled out my "camera" he was already gone.

[PlateauNDN]

hit enter by mistake.  The picture on page 3 of the wolf is how the one I seen was posing by the roadway looking down the road from about 15ft above the road.  He was taller but a little skinnier with a darker gray pelt.

[Cougeyes]

I agree that I dont think a breeding pair would wander that far, but individual animals would male and female.  There are other packs out there, it's just that no one has reported them or no one is actively looking for them.  It may be that certain agencies don't bother to follow up on reports.  There have been reports of wolves in the Teanaway for years, but someone finally got the proof for everyone else to believe.  These wolves didn't have to come from the other known packs and i'm sure DNA analysis would justify that one way or another....they could have been dispersers from other packs, or other failed packs and eventually a male and female found eachother.  Anything is possibly...even someone catching them and releasing them but I find it highly unlikely...it is amazing how far animals can roam and how far they disperse.