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Offline Gringo31

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #195 on: October 08, 2011, 01:17:48 AM »
What a thread.....


wow

I see this one being locked up soon.....
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #196 on: October 08, 2011, 06:58:49 AM »
So I was born here, my mother and father were born here, my grandparents where born here... how far back do we have to go? Point is myself, just like most natives, were all born on the same piece of earth. Our future and lifestyle is what WE as individuals make it out to be. I hate listenting to individuals from other races and creeds vilifying all white people for things that happend 150 years ago. At some point we need to just take a step back and look at the world they way it is now and accept that we have changed and that we can live together and be civilized.

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If I where to write a post such as your last one in which the first sentence not only sets a negative tone but also singles out a certain group of people in what is sure to be a negative rant you would be upset. I'm sure someplace in your rant you have a good message but your anger makes you sound ignorant and your message is lost to those who might have otherwise tried to understand you. Myself, a white Irish American, also has a long list of things that I could complain about. My people where treated as dogs in this country when we arrived. We where slaves treated with as much respect as Africans. Ever wonder how so many African Americans have Irish last names??? That was 150 years ago! It is a different world. You stated that you are educated and I believe that. However as an educated person you should know better than to single out groups of people and make wild and inaccurate generalizations about them. I wrote a paper on conservation and how Sportsmen are the leaders in wildlife conservation. I'll send it to you if you would like. You might be interested to see how much us Europeans, Africans, Natives, Asains, ect.... have done to save our country's wildlife.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #197 on: October 08, 2011, 07:03:35 AM »
Well I contacted my White Swan source today and he told me that it was the Wheelers (suprize suprize) that did the shooting.  They have taken about 6 bulls in the last two weeks out there and he also told me they were cruizing the river today to kill some bucks!  Yakama's finest hard at work trying to wipe out a gene pool all in one year.  Very impressive!  My source is also always spot on when it comes to this stuff.

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #198 on: October 08, 2011, 07:36:02 AM »
Pretty interesting since last night.  Well my source said the wheelers had only harvested 2 bulls the other weekend and Mr. Mass wasn't one of them, he was by different Yakama.  Again if they harvested them in a certain area legall, than nothing can be done and their exercising their rights. 
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #199 on: October 08, 2011, 07:52:07 AM »
I know it will take a lot of restraint but the best thing to do is to ignore him. He is trying to bait you to get it innapropriate so it gets locked.  If you have questions or want to debate in a civil manner I suggest you direct your questions to YAkndn or Plateau.  Again please keep it civil and be the better man.  Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #200 on: October 08, 2011, 08:02:23 AM »
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Pretty interesting since last night.  Well my source said the wheelers had only harvested 2 bulls the other weekend and Mr. Mass wasn't one of them, he was by different Yakama.  Again if they harvested them in a certain area legall, than nothing can be done and their exercising their rights.

Treaties and "non treaty" land, rights etc have been a hot issue before and will continue to be until we all decide to work together.  Much of the fuel to that fire is laying in front of us as a prime example.  The frustrating part is that when WDFW or even Plateau (in this case) dig into it and we are told, "Yep, their right, nothing can be done".  I don't think anyone had the intention of removing the natives way of living off the land.  It is just hard for me to believe that killing these hanford bulls falls into that category.  While I realize it does in the eyes of the law.....I just see it as extremely perverted.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #201 on: October 08, 2011, 08:53:02 AM »
treaty***** has been banned for his username and his comments. He is welcome to sign up with a decent username and join the conversation if he can be civil.

hunterrcc has been sent his only warning regarding the comments he made. Next time his username, IP address, and email address will be permanently banned from this forum.

I have zero tolerance for uncivilized comments of the nature made by these two, that is the quickest way to be banned from this forum permanently. I think tribal issues need to be discussed and we have numerous members from both sides who engage in decent and civil discussion. Anyone who steps to a lesser level will be warned and then banned if they cannot clean it up.

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #202 on: October 08, 2011, 08:55:13 AM »
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #203 on: October 08, 2011, 09:06:18 AM »
Look like a BEST hunting in Rifle season soon. Since big pressure Indian hunter will push all Hanford Herd out of area could be good chance to shoot some.   :yike:  I am on way on open day.

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #204 on: October 08, 2011, 09:55:35 AM »
Mr. Mass is down .. Just saw the pic on another website... http://www.huntfishnw.com/index.php?topic=6853.0

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #205 on: October 08, 2011, 10:11:06 AM »
What bull. And taken by the Indians. Well when someone decides to fight these treaties and put the natives in place and set some rules let me know because is love to join the cause. Purty sure I'm not the only one...

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #206 on: October 08, 2011, 12:12:13 PM »
 :yeah:
What bull. And taken by the Indians. Well when someone decides to fight these treaties and put the natives in place and set some rules let me know because is love to join the cause. Purty sure I'm not the only one...

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #207 on: October 08, 2011, 12:19:00 PM »
I am curious as to who the wheelers are.  Maybe I have been under a rock or something.  I would like to see the tribes start to back up there talk with some action.  If they were really serious about wanting to be a partner in this they would take away the rights of those caught doing these thing and get some great P.R. at the same time. I realize they have their rights and that is a fact of life to be dealt with until we can all sit down and do whats right for all concerned.  I am a member of a tribe that is not federally recognized so I see things a little differently than most since I have Indian heritage but no rights.  :twocents:

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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #208 on: October 08, 2011, 01:30:52 PM »
I am curious as to who the wheelers are.  Maybe I have been under a rock or something.  I would like to see the tribes start to back up there talk with some action.  If they were really serious about wanting to be a partner in this they would take away the rights of those caught doing these thing and get some great P.R. at the same time. I realize they have their rights and that is a fact of life to be dealt with until we can all sit down and do whats right for all concerned.  I am a member of a tribe that is not federally recognized so I see things a little differently than most since I have Indian heritage but no rights.  :twocents:

Mr. Wheeler is an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation who is a successful business owner who owns multiple businesses and in particular Wheeler Logging Co. And King Mountain Cigarettes for example.
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Re: Hanford Bulls
« Reply #209 on: October 08, 2011, 01:38:32 PM »
I am curious as to who the wheelers are.  Maybe I have been under a rock or something.  I would like to see the tribes start to back up there talk with some action.  If they were really serious about wanting to be a partner in this they would take away the rights of those caught doing these thing and get some great P.R. at the same time. I realize they have their rights and that is a fact of life to be dealt with until we can all sit down and do whats right for all concerned.  I am a member of a tribe that is not federally recognized so I see things a little differently than most since I have Indian heritage but no rights.  :twocents:

Mr. Wheeler is an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation who is a successful business owner who owns multiple businesses and in particular Wheeler Logging Co. And King Mountain Cigarettes for example.

And they kill multiple big bulls year round...

 


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