Gill Nets in the Stilly?

[Button Nubbs]

I have never seen a pile of fish rotting on the river bank so I can't speak on that. That is ridiculous though, and would have steam coming out of my ears.

Forgot to add, throwing a hay bale down the river is way different than a log taking a net out. They both end in the same terrible result but one is preventable.

[longknife]

i bet you go to these spots, in a couple days, and there will be a mountain of fish rotting.
hell they are already selling fish on Tulalip 3 silvers for 25 bucks. No eggs, but at least they are using them.

[Kola16]

Kola,

The only joke I saw on this thread was when you tried to convince us you were trying to CNR for steelhead. Yea, ummmhmmm sure...

I was fishing for steelhead, I just happened to hook into a humpy  I can't even afford a hay bale anyway because I don't even have a car 

[woodswalker]

Button Nub..I was threatened with being shot last year for photographing that exact practice on the Snohomish.  The film was removed from my camera...and i left under threat...I went back with a longer lense.  WDFW did nothing and i went to several tribal council members i know and asked for action.

[Button Nubbs]

Where do they net on the snohomish?

[woodswalker]

Last fall it was under the Mainline rail bridge upstream of the old grad into Snohomish proper. there was a BUNCH of fish tossed in the blackberries on the W side of the river and N of the mainline. Net went from the riprap on the S bank to the center-of-bed railroad trestle support and from there over to what we call Cow Beach and was secured to the shoremost pile immediately upstream of cow beach...left about 8 Ft of river uncovered when the tide was in..

[Button Nubbs]

Hmmmm interesting. In the 10+ years I have been fishing that river I have never seen a net. maybe I just always missed them. Not calling you a liar at all. I have just never seen one there. Did you get any pics with the longer lense?

[woodswalker]

Several pics...I'll have to find them in the aftermath of a fast move. That may take a while.  I'll also go spooking and peeking and see what i see this year.  The site is not visible from the town walk or the boat launch...but its close anyhow.

[Button Nubbs]

I'd like to see the pics if you can find them. I've ran that whole river more times than I can count back when I had my sled.

Anyone have pics of a rotting fish pile?

[FC]

I've never seen a pile of rotting fish on the Snohomish but I rarely see the stretch of water we are talking about either! I have however seen numerous piles of fish (chum salmon) rotting all over the Hood Canal area.

[Goldeneye]

I've seen nets where Woodswalker is talking about.  It's been about ten years though.  I pretty much stay up river from there nowadays so I wouldn't see it unless I ran downriver for some reason. 

[longknife]

no pics, but about 5 yrs ago,1/4 mile down the road behind the Silvana tavern, there was 3 big piles of dead pinks, and cut hens where they took the eggs, and left the fish.
AND,,,
On the reservation, Marine Dr, the old gravel pit on the steep hill, across from it,(where they killed all the turkeys they transplanted) the yellow gated road is a fish dump. There are fish being dumped by the truck load.

[Kola16]

 

[singleshot12]

Set gillnetting when done properly with the right mesh size and the right leadline weight used on the correct tides and checked regularly is a very efficient and effective fishery. Unfortunately in the state of WA the Boldt decision allocated 50% of all catch to the natives and they are not always using these privileges in the correct way. Also the fish bio's in WA are not always on top of their game, all the best bio's are up in AK where they actually manage their fisheries correctly. I for one don't agree with the Boldt decision, as I'm sure most here don't either. I would like to see a revised decision where native households are only allocated a subsistence permit for fish in their ancestral tribal area, not given the rights for commercial sales of the fish without obtaining a commercial permit like the non-natives do and being given a preferentail fishing season also. I would like to see more videos and photos of the abuse and neglect of the Boldt decision being published and made known throughout the public. Remember in the in the 90's when the anti's had the petitions to end hound hunting for bears and cougar and also ban bear baiting? Joe public on the streets of Seattle saw a picture of a cute little bear cub in a tree. Why not take a page from their book with some pictures of piles of dead fish stripped of their roe (I have seen this on the Skokomish river) and put a title of "living the traditions our ancestors taught us." We need to get the ball rolling and take some action by getting publicity on this matter, or else another year will pass and we will be here talking the same old story as our renewable resources are wiped out. 

   Boy ain't that the truth, well put, and it may be the only hope we and our salmon have since we can't change the Boldt Decision and the indians refuse to.

[singleshot12]

I saw thousands of Pinks being seined near the mouth today. Seems now that the Chum are almost wiped out for their egg roe the Pinks are next.

How can this happen? All those fish wasted because of the demand for caviar in Japan?  Get ready for a pink salmon sport closer coming soon in the next couple years.

Any NDN's on here want to try to justify another 100% waste of our resource?