Fishermen's attitude

[ICEMAN]

Ok, someone learn me up on this one... 

What is the "fly reel spooled with mono"..... I am feeling pretty out of the loop about now...

[robodad]

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[FANATIC]

Its just fishing a fly rod and reel with mono instead of fly line. Its used in heavy deep water to get down quick, because fly line has too much drag.  I'm pretty sure it would be frowned upon by the purists, but it sure does work.

[Dman]

 I almost never use a fly rod, I run my flies on mono and have always does well, unless you are fishing really big water there's no need. A guide in Oregon showed me a really slick tandem setup where the larger top fly acts as a "bobber", giving you greater casting ability while using a bead head on the bottom.

[Head-shot]

Ok, someone learn me up on this one... 

What is the "fly reel spooled with mono"..... I am feeling pretty out of the loop about now...

I'm with you Iceman, I'm not a fly fisherman.
However; I sometimes even fish with a beer can with 2nd hand fishing line spooled around it. Works good until you get a really big one, then it crushes your can and snatches it right into the damn water...

[jackelope]

I almost never use a fly rod, I run my flies on mono and have always does well, unless you are fishing really big water there's no need. A guide in Oregon showed me a really slick tandem setup where the larger top fly acts as a "bobber", giving you greater casting ability while using a bead head on the bottom.

i could see how this would work for casting say 2-3 feet, but not sure unless you are talking trolling or using a casting bubble how you'd be able to cast any distance with flies on a spinning rod.

the tandem setup is what us purist snobs refer to as a hopper-dropper....we flyfishermen don't use anything called a bobber, ever.
even when we do use bobbers we call them strike indicators...it sounds much more refined and classy.
 

[Dman]

 I'll show you how I do it sometime Josh 

 You use a good sized floater, Carey type or similar and another good sized bead head, strip out some line just as you would a fly rod and even false cast a couple times. I can get out 12-15 feet, plenty for me.

[RightPlace-RightTime]

To the people/person slamming flyfiherman.
Dont slam them all,  Most can outfish the bait slingers. lol.  More of a sport if you know what i mean.
Our hands dont smell like fish unless we catch them.  Most flyfisherman find the river or hole where not as many people are, Yes they are still out there.  Being said, fish are there too.

[Professor Chaos]

wow, you could read the first post and know it was going to end up going this route.  Etiquette is all that is lacking, the message is loud and clear.  If you are floating over their lines, and running their water, you are an *censored*.  Its pretty plain and simple.  If you make an effort to avoid spooking fish or disturbing people's water I find that 99% are courteous. 
The less you know about it Ray, the more possible it is that you were in the wrong and just thinking that everyone else is a jerk.  In reading your whole story that is what sticks out to me.

Like jackelope said, there are bad apples in every crowd, how you deal with it is your own perogative but there are plenty of great waters without the hassel of dealing with idiots.

[tlbradford]

wow, you could read the first post and know it was going to end up going this route.  Etiquette is all that is lacking, the message is loud and clear.  If you are floating over their lines, and running their water, you are an *censored*.  Its pretty plain and simple.  If you make an effort to avoid spooking fish or disturbing people's water I find that 99% are courteous. 
The less you know about it Ray, the more possible it is that you were in the wrong and just thinking that everyone else is a jerk.  In reading your whole story that is what sticks out to me.

Like jackelope said, there are bad apples in every crowd, how you deal with it is your own perogative but there are plenty of great waters without the hassel of dealing with idiots.

I do not know of any rivers that flow different directions, the current always seems to go one way.  If you are on a narrow river and somebody is parked in the middle, the best you can do is to go around as quietly as possible, and give them as much room as possible.  The river needs to be shared and an understanding an etiquette displayed by both boats.

[Ray]

I don't think it's all rocket science and out of line etiquette on our part as you may have suggested. In fact.. contrary to that I suggest that there are a bunch of arrogant pricks that think because they own a boat and launch it down the river then they have become some sort of fishing authority. We never touched anyone's lines or made noise when passing unless someone reached out to converse with us. I have previously and clearly stated that we were not floating over people's water (which they don't own anyway and you have obviously ignored ) unless they forced us to by double parking their boats.. The same folks then complained as we passed by because they felt that they needed to say something for god knows what reason. It's fairly clear to me that a majority of the people on the river that day were inconsiderate and elitist sort of jerks. If you don't agree well then maybe you should have been there instead of implying that you know all about a situation which you did not experience. My friend happens to be a regular along this river so I think your suggestive comment that we were inexperienced and ignorant about our travels are pretty much full of garbage. He felt the same as I did in his own home town about the collection of people out that day where we were at. In fact my whole rant was about a majority of folks lack of consideration and mutual respect on the river that day. That much I can sort of try and agree with you about. However I don't mind telling someone that they're the only ones making noise when they tell us to be quiet  and we've been nothing but silent anyways. That's about all I am guilty of as far as I am concerned. The line of thought you suggest chaos is that if Group A has more experience... that means they have the authority to decide what is proper etiquette over Group B. It falls right in line with the arrogant fisherman's attitude. That would certainly matter as in who is first to a spot but that was not in question or the matter..

[Skyhigh]

wow, you could read the first post and know it was going to end up going this route.  Etiquette is all that is lacking, the message is loud and clear.  If you are floating over their lines, and running their water, you are an *censored*.  Its pretty plain and simple.  If you make an effort to avoid spooking fish or disturbing people's water I find that 99% are courteous. 
The less you know about it Ray, the more possible it is that you were in the wrong and just thinking that everyone else is a jerk.  In reading your whole story that is what sticks out to me.

Like jackelope said, there are bad apples in every crowd, how you deal with it is your own perogative but there are plenty of great waters without the hassel of dealing with idiots.

I do not know of any rivers that flow different directions, the current always seems to go one way.  If you are on a narrow river and somebody is parked in the middle, the best you can do is to go around as quietly as possible, and give them as much room as possible.  The river needs to be shared and an understanding an etiquette displayed by both boats.

in that situation, you would want to "hug" their boat as the water they are fishing is most likely "around" them. An experienced oarsman would observe where and how they are fishing to determine what move to make..

its apparent most are clueless when it comes to river etiquette! but a funny and interesting thread, got me to register.

[Ray]

I do not know of any rivers that flow different directions, the current always seems to go one way.  If you are on a narrow river and somebody is parked in the middle, the best you can do is to go around as quietly as possible, and give them as much room as possible.  The river needs to be shared and an understanding an etiquette displayed by both boats.

I agree and that was our main goal. Why would anyone be interested in getting tangled up in someone else's lines other than to be an idiot. That's about all I was expecting from another person out there. Clearly that expectation is too high 

[robodad]

Where abouts is this etiquette listed, I am pretty new to the river boat thing and I have never read anything about how to act while enjoying my time on the river, don't sound like I could have a real good time if I am constantly worried about how other fisherman want me to act.

Fishing is challanging and if someone rows their boat past me in the river and spooks the fish well I'll just have to catch up to them and throw a...... I mean I'll just have to fish harder or move on to another hole. The rivers are public and I wouldn't expect folks to act any differently weather I met them in a parking lot at Home Depot or on a nice calm streach of the Bogey.

I don't have expensive stuff, but what I have works and if you are on the river to show that you are keeping up with the Jonses and think that because my stuff is older or "Used" and are giving me hell over it, tough !! Maybe I'll bang my oars on the side of the boat as I go past you just for fun 

Get over it is what I say, I spend too little time outdoors the way it is and am damn sure not going to worry about how you think I should be acting while I am out there. I try to be friendly and try not to intentionally piss anyone off and mostly keep to myself and if you have something to say it will get met with a "Whatever" or "Worry about yourself" kind of attitude and I just move on.

It is too bad that folks think they own the river actually I think I own the river but I don't mind sharing !! 

[Ray]

Where abouts is this etiquette listed, I am pretty new to the river boat thing and I have never read anything about how to act while enjoying my time on the river, don't sound like I could have a real good time if I am constantly worried about how other fisherman want me to act.

It is too bad that folks think they own the river actually I think I own the river but I don't mind sharing !!

Robodad I think you got it right.