Opening a can of worms (Team Mossback)

[longrangekiller]

I have had it happen to me in Utah, they come in harass everybody in the area until only they are the only ones  there then block the roads with unmarked vehicles if you try to go around them they start to threaten you. have had on actually start to pull a gun on me because i try to go around him on a quad.  when i reported the incident to the game warden he told me they aren't allowed to mess with him, county cops said the same thing something needs to be done but most states , especially Utah won't touch him. he spends to much money, bribes to many people.

haha good luck pulling a gun on me or my hunting partners first off i got a 44 mag that dont  *#$k around and second of all most of the guys i hunt with are army special forces. they might have a little bump in the hunt hahaha

[rosscrazyelk]

So he promises that you will get a huge private piece of land to hunt and noone else will be around and then takes you the rainwater( which is public).  you pay for a 1 on 1 guide only to have your guide leave a couple days into the hunt because he had to go to work.... He was not replaced. Guarenteed yes thats right I said Guarenteed a 380 bull in a few days and a money back  Guarentee... Not one thing he promised happened..
This is the kind of guy Josh Teal is. Ruined a quality elk dream hunt for a very nice lady. HE should be 

[257 Wby Mag]

Good memory Ross!! Oh, that private land had 6 guys on it opening morning!! Couple walked in from the Robinette, couple came in off the gate on the Dent Road.  Yep, ol Josh is a real peach. He's lucky the ole lady wasn't too tore up about it, he'd got himself hurt.....

[257 Wby Mag]

BTW Ross, thanks for talkin to Shep the other night. Your eagerness/willingness to share info speaks volumes about your character.. Thanks agian, hopefully we'll be able to share a shot of Jack in late Oct at bull camp. Later

[BluMtHunter]

OK, THIS CRAP HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND, I LIVE 12 MILES OUT OF DAYTON SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BIGGEST BULLS IN THE STATE, JOSH TEAL IS ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING HUMANS I HAVE EVER MET AND NO ONE I MEAN NO ONE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE ELK IN THE AREA MORE THAN HIM, GRANTED NOT MANY OF US LOCALS WERE FOND OF THE MOSSBACK CREW CRAWLING ALL OVER OUR COUNTY BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS JOSH IS A HONEST HARD WORKING GUIDE THAT WILL NOT TRESPASS HE IS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH ARE LOCAL GAME WARDEN.     PEOPLE IN GENERAL ARE JEALOUS NO ONE SEEMS TO LIKE THE TOP DOG, SO HIS NAME IS SLANDERED TO MANY LAND OWNERS, SOME OF WHICH THINK THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER LAND THAT AJOINS THERES THAT IN FACT IS OPEN TO PUBLIC HUNTING..    THIS GUY ON HERE RAISING ALL THE CRAP IS A FLAT OUT LIAR , HE AND HIS WIFE WERE PUT UP IN A REAL NICE CABIN, IN THERE SHORT STAY THEY USED UP ALL THE WATER, PROPANE, AND DRANK ALL THE BOOZE, AND SHE HAD A SHOT AT A REAL NICE BULL AND DID NOT TAKE IT, I PERSONALLY DONT NOW ALL THE DETAILS OF WY THEY LEFT BUT THEY DID, BUT THIS GUY BRINGING UP SOMEONES PAST AND PERSONAL FAMILY STUFF IS BULL S%%T, AND AS SOME ONE ELSE ALL READY SAID HE SHOULD PUT HIS NAME ON HERE SO EVERY ONE NOWS WHO HE IS..    WE LIVE HERE AND ARE REAL TIRED OF ALL THE BULL CRAP PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT, SO IF YOU DONT KNOW THE FACTS YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR TRAP SHUT!!!     JOSH HAS MANY RETURN CUSTOMERS AND MANY REFERRALS FROM PAST AND HAS GUIDED TO MANY MORE LARGE BULLS THAN ANY OF HIS COMPETITION.  NOT MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO DRAW ONE OF THESE COVETED TAGS CAN AFFORD TO HIRE A GUIDE , BUT IF YOU DO AND CAN HE IS THE MAN HANDS DOWN..

[Cougeyes]

Well Ross' subject title "Opening a can of worms" is sure fitting the theme of this thread, haha.

[bigpaw 77]

Umm, your cap lock is on.

[257 Wby Mag]

Good one dude! Talk to Kevin Feilds, one of the cabin owners best friends, ask how the cabins was left.. Josh guaranteed me a 380 bull, the first day @ 200 yards on 5000 acres of private land. The cabin was sittin on 40 acres, bordering the Rainwater project. Thats right, the rainwater project was our private land!! Kevin only stayed with us 2 days, Sunday and Monday, Monday being opening day, then leaving us on our own. Yes, we had shots at bulls, 575 yards away on a chunk of ground that was private come to find out. Oh, and we had another shot, one at 8 feet in a grown up clearcut that I got my wife on. Then once we were able to track Josh down, he wanted us to hunt with him and 2 other clients. Thats right, a 3 on 1 hunt when I was told we'd have our own guide.

Then after Josh begged me to give him another chance, against my better judgement, I took it. Josh sends me to Wilbur Eatons place! The day after the results were posted, I had permission from Wilber to hunt his land for free. Josh says, ther are 7 bulls every night entering here, go sit here, and wait, so we do. Low and behold, here come 7 elk, right where Josh said, only problem was, there were 6 cows and a scraggly spike. Huh, what are the chances of that?

 After retuning home, a couple phone calls with Josh, Josh agreed to send my money back. weeks pass by, no check, no answered phone calls. Folks started reccommending I take him to small claims court. After speaking with a unamed source at the Columbia County  Court House, finding out that he basically doesn't exist, it would be moot to waste my timetraveling to Dayton, burning vaction etc trying to get money out of somebody that doesn't exist on paper.

As for the water, it is pumped from the creek, the propane, Kevin said not worry about it, and Jerry's whiskey wasn't worth drinking.  I don't drink on hunts unless somthing gets killed, sooooo guess what, I didn't have a lick to drink.. Keep grasping at straws, cause thats all you got....

[remington300mag]

Just so you know BluMtHunter we can all type his name into the Washington Court Records data base and see his VERY LENGTHY history.....so ya, that is not a lie....and can be proven by anyone that wants to look it up.......I would never trust a guy that has a record like that!!! He obviously has no regard for laws!!

[257 Wby Mag]

OK, THIS CRAP HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND, I LIVE 12 MILES OUT OF DAYTON SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BIGGEST BULLS IN THE STATE, JOSH TEAL IS ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING HUMANS I HAVE EVER MET AND NO ONE I MEAN NO ONE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE ELK IN THE AREA MORE THAN HIM, GRANTED NOT MANY OF US LOCALS WERE FOND OF THE MOSSBACK CREW CRAWLING ALL OVER OUR COUNTY BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS JOSH IS A HONEST HARD WORKING GUIDE THAT WILL NOT TRESPASS HE IS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH ARE LOCAL GAME WARDEN.     PEOPLE IN GENERAL ARE JEALOUS NO ONE SEEMS TO LIKE THE TOP DOG, SO HIS NAME IS SLANDERED TO MANY LAND OWNERS, SOME OF WHICH THINK THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER LAND THAT AJOINS THERES THAT IN FACT IS OPEN TO PUBLIC HUNTING..    THIS GUY ON HERE RAISING ALL THE CRAP IS A FLAT OUT LIAR , HE AND HIS WIFE WERE PUT UP IN A REAL NICE CABIN, IN THERE SHORT STAY THEY USED UP ALL THE WATER, PROPANE, AND DRANK ALL THE BOOZE, AND SHE HAD A SHOT AT A REAL NICE BULL AND DID NOT TAKE IT, I PERSONALLY DONT NOW ALL THE DETAILS OF WY THEY LEFT BUT THEY DID, BUT THIS GUY BRINGING UP SOMEONES PAST AND PERSONAL FAMILY STUFF IS BULL S%%T, AND AS SOME ONE ELSE ALL READY SAID HE SHOULD PUT HIS NAME ON HERE SO EVERY ONE NOWS WHO HE IS..    WE LIVE HERE AND ARE REAL TIRED OF ALL THE BULL CRAP PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT, SO IF YOU DONT KNOW THE FACTS YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR TRAP SHUT!!!     JOSH HAS MANY RETURN CUSTOMERS AND MANY REFERRALS FROM PAST AND HAS GUIDED TO MANY MORE LARGE BULLS THAN ANY OF HIS COMPETITION.  NOT MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO DRAW ONE OF THESE COVETED TAGS CAN AFFORD TO HIRE A GUIDE , BUT IF YOU DO AND CAN HE IS THE MAN HANDS DOWN..

 By the way dumb dumb, I just talked to kevin last week, he's trying tto get ahold of Jerry, the owner of the cabin that we abused so bad, so the pard and I can hunt the backside of Robinette. After last weekend though, we'll turn it down..

[wackmaster]

I don't care if I was a billionare I would hire the worst guide in the world rather than deal with mossycrack.

[257 Wby Mag]

Just so you know BluMtHunter we can all type his name into the Washington Court Records data base and see his VERY LENGTHY history.....so ya, that is not a lie....and can be proven by anyone that wants to look it up.......I would never trust a guy that has a record like that!!! He obviously has no regard for laws!!

 Thats exactly right, a leopard don't change his spots, he just gets sneakier.... He'll get caught up again, just a matter of time....

[BLUEBULLS]

Ask him where his trail camera is now. Pretty sure it found it's way to the sherriff.

[BluMtWA]

I also live in this area. I am really shocked to hear these rants from people who dont live here. The people you use as examples to check up on Josh Teal's credibility aren't the most credible guys in town to ask. They have their own issues and reasons for their opinions. As for Josh's past? It's just that - don't tell me none of you don't have skeletons in YOUR closet! You don't know the whole story. If you want to know, why don't you go and ask Josh? rosscrazy, you just green with jealousy cuz you didn't get asked to be the Mossback guide?  Or do you just like to stir up crap when you don't have anything else to do? As for the guy with the mouth full of sour grapes after his wife's hunt last year.... Josh can't guarantee an elk any more than the weatherman can guarantee sunshine. What bullcrap. Same as your 'story'. Wilbur has to let people hunt his land because he collects  money from the game dept for damages. How many hunted prior to you getting there? Stories always have 2 sides. Best for everyone to remember that!

[257 Wby Mag]

Sour grapes really ain't the problem. The problem is paying for a service, and not getting what was promised.    Kinda like going to a brothel, ordering a hummer and getting buttf#%ed.....