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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2011, 10:31:09 AM »
well i sure hope that they fix the seasons so they dont run together i know it would be hard but killing hounds just dont set well with me, the thought of a hound in a kill trap, i dont think so.... make it where some areas or units you can trap and some units you can run dogs, or only allow leg holds, no conibers or snares, just think if a pack of wolves come by with a poor hound in a damn trap..... :bdid:
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2011, 11:15:56 AM »
I hadn't thought about a hound in a trap getting killed by wolves.  What a nightmare that would be! 

I like that they're trapping wolves, but I would rather make them do legholds.  I don't like kill traps for bobcats, coyotes, or wolves.  Good hounds are too valubale to lose to a darn trap!

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2011, 11:22:24 AM »
i just hate the fact that soon no matter where i go here in the northwest, i will always have to worry about the possiblity my dogs could be killed by wolves. already know a few people here in washington that have had their dogs attacked and killed by wolves,while idaho and montana are even worse. i hope those guys in idaho succeed in breeding pitbulls, great danes, and hounds into one big ass mean sob dog. them dogs will put up a fight with the wolves

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2011, 11:35:28 AM »
ha- I'm not sure there are too many breeds that have a chance with a wolf, or a pack of wolves.  It's not a dogfight, it's more like a purse snatching.

Hopefully I'll draw an ID hound permit- if I do I WILL be carrying a wolf tag in my pocket anytime I'm over there and I'll pull off any track I'm running to go after a wolf if the opportunity presents itself.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2011, 11:40:58 AM »
I don't want to see any hounds in traps, but I am glad they are trapping wolves, it is going to take every method possible to try and manage their numbers. So far this season the number of wolves killed in the entire state does not equal the pup production in any one of many units.

This an age old controversy between hounds and traps, I do both so I can se both sides. If the trappers post siogns and the hounders avoid posted areas, most conflict can be avoided.

At a time when the state is trying to manage wolves I hate to see sportsmen start slinging mud at each other over who has the right to be in the woods when we all need to be there killing as many wolves as possible.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2011, 11:56:29 AM »
ha- I'm not sure there are too many breeds that have a chance with a wolf, or a pack of wolves.  It's not a dogfight, it's more like a purse snatching.

Hopefully I'll draw an ID hound permit- if I do I WILL be carrying a wolf tag in my pocket anytime I'm over there and I'll pull off any track I'm running to go after a wolf if the opportunity presents itself.

i havnt seen them yet, but i know guys are doing it and i think they got the right idea. run 3 or 4 of those guys along with your hunting hounds, and you got some peace of mind atleast. i would love to run hounds that wiegh 150lbs of muscle, may need a bigger dog box though lol

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2011, 12:04:30 PM »
A couple Rhodesian Ridgebacks or Bull Mastiffs might be just the ticket. Or the more obvious, Irish Wolfhound.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2011, 12:18:37 PM »
ha- I'm not sure there are too many breeds that have a chance with a wolf, or a pack of wolves.  It's not a dogfight, it's more like a purse snatching.

Hopefully I'll draw an ID hound permit- if I do I WILL be carrying a wolf tag in my pocket anytime I'm over there and I'll pull off any track I'm running to go after a wolf if the opportunity presents itself.

i havnt seen them yet, but i know guys are doing it and i think they got the right idea. run 3 or 4 of those guys along with your hunting hounds, and you got some peace of mind atleast. i would love to run hounds that wiegh 150lbs of muscle, may need a bigger dog box though lol

Do they know if those other dogs will mix well with their hounds? I know a few guys who have tried to mix other breeds to make grittier bear dogs and ended up with problems within their own pack or when hunting with other dogs. Just curious?
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2011, 12:25:55 PM »
wonder how a rottweiler hound mix would do? since rotts were orginaly hearding dogs.. hmmm the rott we had when I was a kid killed 4 yotes at one time, they were trying to get at a calf we had, he burst out of the door first and by them time we rounded the barn he was finishing off the last one. side note he was never aggresive to people or other dogs though.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #69 on: October 13, 2011, 12:30:48 PM »
you hit right on the head bearpaw, you start mixn breeds you end up with trash dogs that want to kill each other, plotts are about as mean a hound as i have personally seen, the best dog we had was a cross with a lab and walker best damn cat dog i ever seen, and i understand about the mud slingn but  a leg hold is just as good as any kill trap and i can guarantee, i would be taken a couple extra guys with me on any hound hunt and i would definatly not be letn my dogs trail a real cold cat, if they dont blow up right away i would find a differant track, or if the snow isnt on they would stay right on the hood until they struck real hard and when i cut them loose i would stay right on top of them, its gonna be hard on bothsides i bet, but i really think they should limit it to leg hold only, hell if i was able to trap them here i would rather shoot one in a trap instead of him being dead already may sound cruel but thats my thoughts on wolves...., sorry if i offended anyone
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #70 on: October 13, 2011, 12:35:08 PM »
I know it's controversial.

What about snares, I think snares will prove more effective than any other means.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #71 on: October 13, 2011, 12:44:48 PM »
ha- I'm not sure there are too many breeds that have a chance with a wolf, or a pack of wolves.  It's not a dogfight, it's more like a purse snatching.

Hopefully I'll draw an ID hound permit- if I do I WILL be carrying a wolf tag in my pocket anytime I'm over there and I'll pull off any track I'm running to go after a wolf if the opportunity presents itself.

i havnt seen them yet, but i know guys are doing it and i think they got the right idea. run 3 or 4 of those guys along with your hunting hounds, and you got some peace of mind atleast. i would love to run hounds that wiegh 150lbs of muscle, may need a bigger dog box though lol

Do they know if those other dogs will mix well with their hounds? I know a few guys who have tried to mix other breeds to make grittier bear dogs and ended up with problems within their own pack or when hunting with other dogs. Just curious?

i really dont know, but that is the only problem i see is making sure they can get along ok. otherwise you'll hve dead dogs at the tree or in the dog box. i see pits doing wel with hounds down south on pigs tho so why cant it work here? i havnt met anyone personally that is doing this, but i hope to soon as i would like to be apart of it. 150lbs may be a stretch for size but id imagine just a 70lbs pitbull could take on most any full grown wolf

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2011, 12:48:29 PM »
A couple Rhodesian Ridgebacks or Bull Mastiffs might be just the ticket. Or the more obvious, Irish Wolfhound.

You'll have to find some wolf hounds that still have some wolf hunting blood left in them. These domestic dogs don't stand a chance in a throwdown with a wolf. Too much domestication bred into them I suspect.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #73 on: October 13, 2011, 12:52:43 PM »
I think they still chase wolves in Russia with packs of dogs.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #74 on: October 13, 2011, 01:19:02 PM »
I think they still chase wolves in Russia with packs of dogs.

that would be fun, id love to go around the world and hunt different critters with dogs

 


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