Author Topic: Going to Idaho--- Bullet help (Read 6027 times)

time2hunt · « **on:** October 10, 2011, 01:47:04 PM »

Going to Idaho can't shoot sabots and powerbelts will not group what do you recommend for a 50 caliber bullet.
Brian

sirmissalot · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2011, 01:50:50 PM »

Really, are sabots illegal there?

time2hunt · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2011, 01:55:14 PM »

Ya no sabots or pellets

Everything else is the same as Washingtons laws

spookgus · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2011, 01:59:11 PM »

Try something like a TC Maxi-ball. What is the rate of twist on you smoke pole?

time2hunt · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:06:07 PM »

1 and 28 twist the 295 grain powerbelts would not group going to try a little lighter bullet and go from there.

bobcat · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:07:52 PM »

With a fast twist like that you want to go with the heavier/longer bullets, not lighter and shorter.

time2hunt · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:11:58 PM »

Im will to try anything as long as I can hit something

TheHunt · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:23:55 PM »

Maxiballs .. is my vote since no powerbelts or sabots...

WAcoyotehunter · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:25:14 PM »

Quote from: spookgus on October 10, 2011, 01:59:11 PM

Try something like a TC Maxi-ball. What is the rate of twist on you smoke pole?

garrenj · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:27:53 PM »

I have a 1-28 twist and have had good luck with the 320 maxi's out to 125 yards. Anything farther and they won't group, but 125 is beyond my comfortable range anyway. I tried the 275's and they would not group past 50.

bobcat · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:35:24 PM »

Try these:

http://thorbullets.com/

http://www.hornady.com/store/50-Cal-300-gr-FPB/

time2hunt · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:44:02 PM »

Thanks guys

bobcat · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:01:17 PM »

So Idaho does not require an all-lead bullet, like Oregon does? (and like Washington until it changed last year)

Sabotloader · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:04:45 PM »

Quote from: bobcat on October 10, 2011, 02:35:24 PM

Try these:

http://thorbullets.com/

http://www.hornady.com/store/50-Cal-300-gr-FPB/

Can not shoot either of these in Idaho... The have to be full bore - lead conicals...

time2hunt

I use .503-460 grain Bull Shop conicals... which is not going to help you a lot right now as they are hard to get.... but Dave @ NO Excuse bullets build practically the same thing...

When are you coming over?

What rifle will be shooting?

bobcat · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:08:36 PM »

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Can not shoot either of these in Idaho... The have to be full bore - lead conicals...

Yeah I kinda thought so but I was going by what he said- that the only difference between Idaho and Washington is that Idaho doesn't allow sabots...

Sabotloader · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:35:50 PM »

Quote from: bobcat on October 10, 2011, 03:08:36 PM

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Can not shoot either of these in Idaho... The have to be full bore - lead conicals...

Yeah I kinda thought so but I was going by what he said- that the only difference between Idaho and Washington is that Idaho doesn't allow sabots...

Yes, we are still in the Oregon boat... Washington is more progressive than either of us..

bobcat · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:42:06 PM »

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Washington is more progressive than either of us..

Right- but I'm not sure that's a good thing.

Basically, Washington is more like California, correct? Is that what you're saying?

time2hunt · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:54:26 PM »

Sabotloader,
Hunting somewhere around the Nov.10th-24th have a 52a tag. Shooting traditions vortec northwest magnum and trying to find a good accurate non sabot bullet and load.

Sabotloader · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2011, 04:10:13 PM »

Quote from: time2hunt on October 10, 2011, 03:54:26 PM

Sabotloader,
Hunting somewhere around the Nov.10th-24th have a 52a tag. Shooting traditions vortec northwest magnum and trying to find a good accurate non sabot bullet and load.

I really do not know much about the Traditions so I have no ideal of bore size to gauge anything on. I can tell you that I tried all the different bulk conicals from my 1-28 rifles and did not have much luck with any of them - accuracy wise. For me the .503 lead conical acts like a sabot fit.... it is designed to be a slip fit to your bore - no short starter need - just push it in with your thumb and push it down with the ram rod.

My basic load is 80-90 grains of T7-3f, with a .510x.125 shot card on top of the powder, then the .503-460 grain bullet. I use #11 mag caps for ignition.

The shot card is to insulate the bottom of the bullet from the heat of the powder to keep it from melting the lead on the bottom of the bullet. And the card also keeps the lube on the bullet from reaching down and possibly contaminating a portion of the powder.

If the .503 would work in your bore I think you would really like the results. If you call Dave @ NO-Excuse bullets he will send you a box of bullets out in the mail right away and expect you to send in a check in the mail to him, so you get the product in a hurry.

time2hunt · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2011, 04:21:39 PM »

Thanks

Kowsrule30 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2011, 06:51:27 PM »

If your Powerbelts are not grouping at all make sure it's a clean hole.... They will tumble if your powder charge is too high from my experience.... I had to back off from 150 grains to 130 grains.... I have a 1 in 28 twist with a 26" barrel.... I get 2-4" groups @ 100 yards with PB....

3dsheetmetal · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2011, 07:21:50 PM »

Precision has all lead conicals that seem like they should work for you.

time2hunt · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2011, 07:27:44 PM »

Those are some sweet looking bullets

I gave her a good hot bath and i'm going to give them(powerbelts) one more try. Went to traditions web site and they had a bunch of different bullets also. Thanks for the help and input guy

Brian

huntnnw · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2011, 09:49:57 PM »

I have had great accuracy with Hornady great plains bullets..I use to shoot the 460gr.. Big lead=Dead!

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