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What kind of new bow
« on: October 11, 2011, 01:13:08 PM »
I am in the market for a new bow; however, I am having trouble finding a bow that is capable of 80# draw, with a 31-32 draw length. Anyone know of any??? Or should I shorten my draw length a little and get an X force. I saw that the PSE Vendetta XL has a draw length of 32 but only is capable of 70# draw. Thanks! (I am getting more into bow hunting because I want to enjoy the long season and challenge myself :))

PS I want the 80# draw because I am 6'6" and 250 lbs, so 80# isn't too much at all.
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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 01:20:57 PM »
Hoyt has long draw specific cams and limbs up to 90lbs on some models... Believe there is a dealer in Puyallup

Great Northwest in Puyallup.

-My partner is 6'4" and a knuckle dragger. He just got a Bowtech Destroyer 350 and it fits his 31.5" DL by adding a very slightly longer loop... He shoots it quite well, but they don't go up to 80lbs as far as I know.
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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 01:24:13 PM »
80 # is overkill dont shorten your draw 70 # is plenty of knock down for any biggame.

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 01:29:39 PM »
While you certainly don't need 80lbs to kill any NA big game, it would allow a guy to shoot some very heavy arrows....

Personally I shoot 70lbs and 482grn arrows.   I wouldn't call 80lbs overkill as long as a guy can smoothly draw it in all kinds of awkward positions and in cold temps, as well as being able to stay steady at full draw. I can handle 80lbs, just choose not to

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 01:33:15 PM »
mathews monster mr7 you can get 80lbs 32in draw.. dont know if your looking to spend a grand for a bow though :dunno:
on the other hand I have one and love it. just goto the shops see what they have and try them out see what fits you best.

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 02:19:26 PM »
While you certainly don't need 80lbs to kill any NA big game, it would allow a guy to shoot some very heavy arrows....

Personally I shoot 70lbs and 482grn arrows.   I wouldn't call 80lbs overkill as long as a guy can smoothly draw it in all kinds of awkward positions and in cold temps, as well as being able to stay steady at full draw. I can handle 80lbs, just choose not to

I could handle it just fine.  I would never shorten my draw length to get that much weight.  It's not needed.  Heavier arrows are worse.  Light arrows shoot flat.  most archers try to get the lightest arrows the state will allow.  Personally i shoot 420 something and 64 #s of draw Id be content with 60 # draw plenty of penetration with a good arrow/broadhead.  :twocents:

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 02:28:59 PM »
While you certainly don't need 80lbs to kill any NA big game, it would allow a guy to shoot some very heavy arrows....

Personally I shoot 70lbs and 482grn arrows.   I wouldn't call 80lbs overkill as long as a guy can smoothly draw it in all kinds of awkward positions and in cold temps, as well as being able to stay steady at full draw. I can handle 80lbs, just choose not to

I could handle it just fine.  I would never shorten my draw length to get that much weight.  It's not needed.  Heavier arrows are worse.  Light arrows shoot flat.  most archers try to get the lightest arrows the state will allow.  Personally i shoot 420 something and 64 #s of draw Id be content with 60 # draw plenty of penetration with a good arrow/broadhead.  :twocents:

Don't know what you mean by" heavier arrows are worse", but other than that I agree with what you say... 420 grn arrows out of a 64lb draw is plenty good enough. 


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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 02:48:09 PM »
80lbs and 32" draw?! :yike: most guys would give a nut to have that kinda DL. Why is it you are stuck on 80lbs? Given your DL you will already be 20fps over ibo on any bow you choose and imo 60lbs would be more than adequate. My wimpy 60lb bow blew through both sides of my bull and stuck in the ground this year. :twocents: 
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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 02:56:18 PM »
I could handle it just fine.  I would never shorten my draw length to get that much weight.  It's not needed.  Heavier arrows are worse.  Light arrows shoot flat.  most archers try to get the lightest arrows the state will allow.   Personally i shoot 420 something and 64 #s of draw Id be content with 60 # draw plenty of penetration with a good arrow/broadhead.  :twocents:

I would question very hard the validity of that statement. I want heavier arrows for more KE and I suspect I'm not alone in that thinking.
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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 02:58:52 PM »
 :yeah: I am with you on that one, the idea is to get  a good trade off, the weight of the arrow to kill plus the speed to fly flatter to take some of the hard work of yardage guessing out of it. Also on a side note I would rather be able to hold my 70lb bow at full draw with out shaking at all for 10 minutes then to pull 80 and only be able to hold for a few  :twocents:

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 04:16:51 PM »
I could handle it just fine.  I would never shorten my draw length to get that much weight.  It's not needed.  Heavier arrows are worse.  Light arrows shoot flat.  most archers try to get the lightest arrows the state will allow.   Personally i shoot 420 something and 64 #s of draw Id be content with 60 # draw plenty of penetration with a good arrow/broadhead.  :twocents:

I would question very hard the validity of that statement. I want heavier arrows for more KE and I suspect I'm not alone in that thinking.

Why would they set a min grain per pound of draw weight?   I've always heard of guys getting as close as possible to that min and getting nice flat straight patterns out of it.  Your telling me you get as heavy as arrows as your bow can shoot?  6 grains per pound of draw is plenty of KE thats why its the law.   :twocents:   

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 04:24:18 PM »
this is what happens when you get your arrow weight down too much, with the ultra fast modern bows you do not need really light arrows to get them to shoot flat, at 340fps they fly flat, the heavier the arrow the more kinetic energy(penetration) the arrow will have at impact.  I saw a guy in SC put one through his forearm where they do not have arrow wight laws, down there they believe the problem will fix itself, kinda like no warning labels  :chuckle:

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 04:43:13 PM »
I love the arrow weight debate.

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 04:45:10 PM »
 :yike: not that light!  lol i like to be over the min myself by about fifty grains for the extra KE and penetration.  I cant speak for "most guys" thats were i went wrong i geuss lol.  But 6 grains per pound of draw would do fine. 

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Re: What kind of new bow
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 04:59:11 PM »
I could handle it just fine.  I would never shorten my draw length to get that much weight.  It's not needed.  Heavier arrows are worse.  Light arrows shoot flat.  most archers try to get the lightest arrows the state will allow.   Personally i shoot 420 something and 64 #s of draw Id be content with 60 # draw plenty of penetration with a good arrow/broadhead.  :twocents:

I would question very hard the validity of that statement. I want heavier arrows for more KE and I suspect I'm not alone in that thinking.

I am in the heavier arrow boat, but that's only because I am a physics major at UW haha. (1/2)*m*v^2, more mass=more KE  :IBCOOL:
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